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Old April 19th 17, 12:21 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr
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Old April 19th 17, 12:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
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Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr


all on one page, and properly delimited:
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...-your-dlsr/p/a
ll

1 form factor - subjective. fail.
2 lenses - partly correct. there are far more native lenses for an slr,
however, mft can use *any* lens with an appropriate adapter. partial
credit.
3 bokeh - has nothing to do with sensor size and it doesn't even talk
about bokeh, it talks about depth of field, which is independent of
format. fail.
4 battery - has nothing to do with slr and everything to do with power
efficiency and size of battery. fail.
5 focus speed - true
6 image quality - true

2.5 out of 6. fail.
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Old April 19th 17, 01:45 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2017-04-18 23:21:57 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr


That is an interesting take. However, the author strikes me as a
somewhat gullible type with buyer's remorse because he made a purchase
decision based on hype he had read. I take issue with several things he
has written and I will take them in his order:

1: Form Factor

Here the onus is all on him. Knowing that the E-M5 MkII was going to be
smaller, he bought it without at least trying to see if he was going to
be comfortable with a more compact camera with ergonomics different to
what he was familiar with. I certainly have large ham hands and I
understood there was going to be a difference between the two form
factors, so I persevered and even with my fat thumbs and fingers the
small camera is manageable.

2: Lenses

If he had specialized lens needs he needed to research the camera
system he planned to buy. The Olympus, Panasonic, Canon, Fujifilm and
Sony 4/3 and APS-C MILC's have lenses to fit most photographic needs
and the added option of being able to use adaptors. What he isn't going
to find is the selection of long, fast prime lenses Nikon and Canon
offer, but if that is what he needs (and can afford) to meet his
photographic goals, he is obviously going to need a high performance
DSLR. Another instance of buyer's remorse after bad research.
BTW: Fujifilm has a pretty useful and varied selection of X-Series
primes and zooms to fit almost any need. What they don't have (yet) is
a 300mm, 400mm, or 500mm fast prime.

3: Bokeh

Here he is starting at a disadvantage with an M4/3 sensor. For a fairer
comparison he should compare APS-C with APS-C (since he has gone back
to a D7100). I can name several Fujinon, Zeiss, and Sony lenses which
will give him all the creamy bokeh he can handle from a MILC. This
feeble reason for a return to DSLR is disingenuous at best.

4: Battery life

This is a legitimate argument and something he should have been aware
of due to the nature of MILC's with a full-time EVF, and failure to
take appropriate steps to minimize LCD use by managing EVF/LCD usage
with user menu settings. I certainly don't get the battery life out of
my X-E2 that I got out of my D300S (with battery grip), but I
understood that and on most shoots I could get by with one fully
charged battery. However I take the precaution to have an extra battery
handy. The new X-T2 is truly battery hungry, but even with that I was
able to spend most of a day out at Carrizo Plain shooting without a
battery change. That said I will be getting the battery grip for the
X-T2 for those time I need the assurance of a longer period between
battery changes.

5: Autofocus Tracking Speed

I don't know what he is bitching about here. The AF-C tracking on my
X-E2 is very good, and the AF tracking on the X-T2 is just astonishing
leaving nothing to be desired when compared to many DSLR's. As for
paying a lot of money for that feature, my X-T2 body cost me $1,599,
and he says his E-M1 MkII costs $2K. Considering the D500 body is
currently $2K there isn't much in it.

6: Image Quality

This is a senseless complaint comparing an M4/3 sensor camera with an
APS-C. What did he think he was going to get, some sort of photographic
miracle? The M4/3 cameras are good performers and more than adequate
for most shooter, but there are some jobs they will struggle with.
There were APS-C MILC's available and he should have explored those
options instead of wishy-washy arguments as to why he now has buyer's
remorse and has backtracked to a D7100.

I still have my D300S, and I cannot rule out ever buying a D500, but
now that I have the X-T2 I can't see that happening any time soon.
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Old April 19th 17, 02:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Eric Stevens:
Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr


Fluff and one person's meaningless opinion. One should stick with the
camera that one is comfortable with.

I like my Canon 5D Mark IV, 5D Mark III, and 6D very much. But I just
bought a Canon M5 mirrorless and I love little bugger for its small
size and it's incredible sharpness and color quality, as my proverbial
grab-and-go. That is what works for me, and YMMV.

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Old April 19th 17, 09:53 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 19/04/2017 11:57 @wiz, RichA wrote:

You are over 50.
You are convinced legacy lenses are important, even if you don't own any.
You are self-deluded into thinking you are a great and vital sports photographer, so you need cutting-edge AFC.
You like carrying more weight than you need to.
You are addicted to the clackity-clack of a mirror flipping.




LOL!
Precisely!
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Old April 19th 17, 11:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 19/04/2017 02:52, Davoud wrote:
Eric Stevens:
Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr


Fluff and one person's meaningless opinion. One should stick with the
camera that one is comfortable with.

I like my Canon 5D Mark IV, 5D Mark III, and 6D very much. But I just
bought a Canon M5 mirrorless and I love little bugger for its small
size and it's incredible sharpness and color quality, as my proverbial
grab-and-go. That is what works for me, and YMMV.


Do you use the M5 with an adapter, and EF-S lenses? If it worked well
I'd consider an M5 . . .

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Old April 19th 17, 12:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Eric Stevens:
Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr


Davoud:
Fluff and one person's meaningless opinion. One should stick with the
camera that one is comfortable with.


I like my Canon 5D Mark IV, 5D Mark III, and 6D very much. But I just
bought a Canon M5 mirrorless and I love little bugger for its small
size and it's incredible sharpness and color quality, as my proverbial
grab-and-go. That is what works for me, and YMMV.


RJH:
Do you use the M5 with an adapter, and EF-S lenses? If it worked well
I'd consider an M5 . . .


I have done so and it works well. EF lenses, not EF-S, as my other
cameras can't use EF-S. But for the most part, putting a large lens on
the M5 would defeat *my* purpose in owning this small camera. I use the
EF-M 18-150 as my standard lens and the EF-M 28mm macro for photos like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/33649914320/.

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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Old April 19th 17, 10:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:57:40 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:21:59 UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote:
Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr
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Regards,

Eric Stevens


You are over 50.
You are convinced legacy lenses are important, even if you don't own any.
You are self-deluded into thinking you are a great and vital sports photographer, so you need cutting-edge AFC.
You like carrying more weight than you need to.
You are addicted to the clackity-clack of a mirror flipping.


Who is the "you" to whom you are referring?
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Old April 19th 17, 10:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:57:40 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:21:59 UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote:
Originally published by Nikonians
https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/6-...with-your-dlsr
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens


You are over 50.
You are convinced legacy lenses are important, even if you don't own any.
You are self-deluded into thinking you are a great and vital sports photographer, so you need cutting-edge AFC.
You like carrying more weight than you need to.
You are addicted to the clackity-clack of a mirror flipping.



some, but not necessarily all, of the above.
When I sold my S2F, and the buyer tripped the shutter I got a pang of
nostalgia for that sound.

How about, it's cheaper than buying something new?
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Old April 26th 17, 04:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article 2017041817454056760-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

The AF-C tracking on my
X-E2 is very good, and the AF tracking on the X-T2 is just astonishing
leaving nothing to be desired when compared to many DSLR's.



Can you follow a flying bird without the image in the viewfinder
blacking out between shots?

Just curious.

m-m

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