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Old July 31st 18, 02:46 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

In article , dale
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Lightroom is not a łviewing environment˛, your łviewing environment˛
is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room


couldn't it be configured to profile, and connected to other profiles ?


no.
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Old July 31st 18, 02:47 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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On 7/30/2018 9:31 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale
wrote:


I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for
a viewing environment like a light box.

there is.


does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ...


lightroom (no space), and no.

you need a hardware puck and associated software.


the name Lightroom (no space) is kinda' like a room where you have
specific viewing conditions like the characteristics of the light ?

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Old July 31st 18, 02:49 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ):

On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote:
In ,
wrote:

I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for
a viewing environment like a light box.

there is.

does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ...


Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing environment”
is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together with
your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate
viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done
on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a
calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of the
tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite
ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio Spectrophotometer,
or any of the tools they offer.

After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an
icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied
via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of these
calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according
to changing light in that room.

Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for
printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration profiles.

http://x-rite.com


Try this: https://www.xrite.com

https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/



might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.

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Old July 31st 18, 02:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

In article , dale
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might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.


lightroom has been fully colour managed since day one.
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Old July 31st 18, 03:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital, sci.engr.color, sci.image.processing
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On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ):

On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ):

On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote:
In ,
wrote:

I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for
a viewing environment like a light box.

there is.

does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ...

Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing
environment”
is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together
with
your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate
viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done
on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a
calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of
the
tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite
ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio
Spectrophotometer,
or any of the tools they offer.

After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an
icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied
via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of
these
calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according
to changing light in that room.

Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for
printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration
profiles.

http://x-rite.com


Try this: https://www.xrite.com

https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/


might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.


Those tools have nothing to do with Lightroom, other than generating icc
profiles which can be use with Lightroom, printers, projectors, etc. The
important issue is having your display/monitor properly calibrated when used
under the ambient light in whatever room you use for editing. Without that
calibration any attempt at color management, regardless of icc profile you
might have available, will be unsuccessful.

....and then there is your camera, and whatever light conditions, or
artificial light you might find yourself shooting under.

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Regards,
Savageduck

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Old July 31st 18, 10:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

On 7/30/2018 10:07 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ):

On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ):

On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote:
In ,
wrote:

I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for
a viewing environment like a light box.

there is.

does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ...

Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing
environment”
is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together
with
your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate
viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done
on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a
calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of
the
tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite
ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio
Spectrophotometer,
or any of the tools they offer.

After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an
icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied
via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of
these
calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according
to changing light in that room.

Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for
printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration
profiles.

http://x-rite.com

Try this: https://www.xrite.com

https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/


might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.


Those tools have nothing to do with Lightroom, other than generating icc
profiles which can be use with Lightroom, printers, projectors, etc. The
important issue is having your display/monitor properly calibrated when used
under the ambient light in whatever room you use for editing. Without that
calibration any attempt at color management, regardless of icc profile you
might have available, will be unsuccessful.

...and then there is your camera, and whatever light conditions, or
artificial light you might find yourself shooting under.


there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance,
look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia

viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance

I think ICC considers CIECAM02

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Old July 31st 18, 10:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

On 7/30/2018 9:57 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale
wrote:

might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.


lightroom has been fully colour managed since day one.


there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance,
look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia

viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance

I think ICC considers CIECAM02

--
dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/
Not a professional opinion unless specified.
  #18  
Old July 31st 18, 10:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

On 7/30/2018 9:46 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale
wrote:

Lightroom is not a ³viewing environment², your ³viewing environment²
is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room


couldn't it be configured to profile, and connected to other profiles ?


no.


what prevents it ?

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  #19  
Old July 31st 18, 12:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,sci.engr.color,sci.image.processing
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On 7/31/2018 5:52 AM, dale wrote:


what prevents it


feature request ?


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  #20  
Old July 31st 18, 02:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital, sci.engr.color, sci.image.processing
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Default ICC profile for a light box

On Jul 31, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ):

On 7/30/2018 9:57 PM, nospam wrote:
In ,
wrote:

might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.


lightroom has been fully colour managed since day one.


there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance,
look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia

viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance


What exactly do you believe is a *light room*?

Understand that any viewing environment is going to be influenced by amient
light, regardless of the specific light source be it day light, or any type
of artificial lighting.

What is your specific, or special purpose/interest for needing this specific
icc profile for a *light room* (not LR the app)?

It doesn’t sound as though you have any interest in color management for
photography post processing.


I think ICC considers CIECAM02


You think?

CIECAM02 is a color model.

Perhaps looking at the entire Datacolor, and/or X-Rite Pantone sites might
provide some information regarding color management outside the realm of
photography. Some how I don’t believe that anything us photographers say is
going to satisfy you.

https://www.datacolor.com
https://www.xrite.com

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Regards,
Savageduck

 




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