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  #161  
Old July 3rd 17, 11:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
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The answer to whether or not it utilises preset color spaces is that
it has sRGB, Adobe and DCI-P3 preinstalled. So somewhere there is a
mechanism for converting the standard screen output data stream to the
data stream required by the 5k. And all of this has to be capable of
calibration.


mac os handles any colour space conversions that are needed.

more than you ever wanted to know:
https://developer.apple.com/library/...13/_index.html



tl;dr


https://developer.apple.com/library/...Art/tn2313_wha

thappensinappall.jpg


That first one was quite interesting but the only stuff new to me was
the Apple-specific items. The second one was (I think) contained in
the first.


it is contained in it, which is why it's a tl;dr.

In any case, my question was directed to the hardware of the 5k, which
screen was not mentioned specifically that I could see.


the hardware makes no difference. what matters are the results.
  #162  
Old July 4th 17, 12:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 18:47:50 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

The answer to whether or not it utilises preset color spaces is that
it has sRGB, Adobe and DCI-P3 preinstalled. So somewhere there is a
mechanism for converting the standard screen output data stream to the
data stream required by the 5k. And all of this has to be capable of
calibration.

mac os handles any colour space conversions that are needed.

more than you ever wanted to know:
https://developer.apple.com/library/...13/_index.html



tl;dr


https://developer.apple.com/library/...Art/tn2313_wha
thappensinappall.jpg


That first one was quite interesting but the only stuff new to me was
the Apple-specific items. The second one was (I think) contained in
the first.


it is contained in it, which is why it's a tl;dr.

In any case, my question was directed to the hardware of the 5k, which
screen was not mentioned specifically that I could see.


the hardware makes no difference. what matters are the results.


As usual, your thinking is stopping at the boundary of the box: you
are not interested in what is inside it. My question is about what is
inside the box and how it works.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #163  
Old July 4th 17, 12:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


That first one was quite interesting but the only stuff new to me was
the Apple-specific items. The second one was (I think) contained in
the first.


it is contained in it, which is why it's a tl;dr.

In any case, my question was directed to the hardware of the 5k, which
screen was not mentioned specifically that I could see.


the hardware makes no difference. what matters are the results.


As usual, your thinking is stopping at the boundary of the box: you
are not interested in what is inside it.


it's not that i'm not interested, it's that it makes no difference.
photos or anything else won't look any better by knowing the specifics
of the hardware.

mac os is mostly hardware agnostic (there are a few apple-custom chips
unavailable to pc makers). there is no special mac os for the 5k imac
or any other mac. whatever you can do on the 5k imac can be done on
other macs, but with whatever limitations that other mac has. upgrade
and those limitations go away.

My question is about what is
inside the box and how it works.


it's called *software*.
  #164  
Old July 4th 17, 12:39 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:22:29 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


That first one was quite interesting but the only stuff new to me was
the Apple-specific items. The second one was (I think) contained in
the first.

it is contained in it, which is why it's a tl;dr.

In any case, my question was directed to the hardware of the 5k, which
screen was not mentioned specifically that I could see.

the hardware makes no difference. what matters are the results.


As usual, your thinking is stopping at the boundary of the box: you
are not interested in what is inside it.


it's not that i'm not interested, it's that it makes no difference.
photos or anything else won't look any better by knowing the specifics
of the hardware.

mac os is mostly hardware agnostic (there are a few apple-custom chips
unavailable to pc makers). there is no special mac os for the 5k imac
or any other mac. whatever you can do on the 5k imac can be done on
other macs, but with whatever limitations that other mac has. upgrade
and those limitations go away.

My question is about what is
inside the box and how it works.


it's called *software*.


In this case it's called firmware.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #165  
Old July 4th 17, 12:39 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
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My question is about what is
inside the box and how it works.


it's called *software*.


In this case it's called firmware.


nope.
  #166  
Old July 4th 17, 12:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Jul 3, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 21:57:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

When I get my 5K iMac I will let you know.


Are you waiting for the new model?


No. The model I want is available now.

I am not looking at the iMac Pro which is only going to be available at the
end of the year. What I am doing is prioritizing my spending, and
rationalizing my actual need in my head. I am trying to avoid acquisition for
acquisition’s sake. To do that I have to take into account that I actually
have an iMac which does everything I ask of it now. The primary reason I have
for buying the new iMac is to get my greedy hands on it.My major
consideration is the age of my current set up. The iMac is a mid-2010, and
eventually it is going to age out of the OS update window. I prefer to
preempt that by buying the replacement within the next six months, perhaps
earlier. To do that configured the way I want it, I would be spending
$2800-$3000. Once I have the new iMac, it wouldn’t actually be doing
anything different to what I am doing now, except, presumably faster.

The same thing could be said for my R2880. The prints I get out of that
printer are superb. It would be nice, but pointless to upgrade to something
new, especially considering that I am not running a production print house.

Then there are a few lenses I have my eye on, and those might come first.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

  #167  
Old July 4th 17, 05:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:42:04 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jul 3, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 21:57:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

When I get my 5K iMac I will let you know.


Are you waiting for the new model?


No. The model I want is available now.

I am not looking at the iMac Pro which is only going to be available at the
end of the year. What I am doing is prioritizing my spending, and
rationalizing my actual need in my head. I am trying to avoid acquisition for
acquisition’s sake. To do that I have to take into account that I actually
have an iMac which does everything I ask of it now. The primary reason I have
for buying the new iMac is to get my greedy hands on it.My major
consideration is the age of my current set up. The iMac is a mid-2010, and
eventually it is going to age out of the OS update window. I prefer to
preempt that by buying the replacement within the next six months, perhaps
earlier. To do that configured the way I want it, I would be spending
$2800-$3000. Once I have the new iMac, it wouldn’t actually be doing
anything different to what I am doing now, except, presumably faster.

The same thing could be said for my R2880. The prints I get out of that
printer are superb. It would be nice, but pointless to upgrade to something
new, especially considering that I am not running a production print house.

Then there are a few lenses I have my eye on, and those might come first.


I know the feeling.

A friend of mine who has driven second hand Hond Legends (AKA Acura
RL) for years has lashed out and bought a highly spec'd
http://tinyurl.com/tejs3w3 His excuse was that he was coming up to the
age of 80 and he was running out of time to yield to desire ...
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #168  
Old July 4th 17, 05:48 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Jul 3, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:42:04 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jul 3, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 21:57:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

When I get my 5K iMac I will let you know.

Are you waiting for the new model?


No. The model I want is available now.

I am not looking at the iMac Pro which is only going to be available at the
end of the year. What I am doing is prioritizing my spending, and
rationalizing my actual need in my head. I am trying to avoid acquisition
for
acquisition’s sake. To do that I have to take into account that I actually
have an iMac which does everything I ask of it now. The primary reason I
have
for buying the new iMac is to get my greedy hands on it.My major
consideration is the age of my current set up. The iMac is a mid-2010, and
eventually it is going to age out of the OS update window. I prefer to
preempt that by buying the replacement within the next six months, perhaps
earlier. To do that configured the way I want it, I would be spending
$2800-$3000. Once I have the new iMac, it wouldn’t actually be doing
anything different to what I am doing now, except, presumably faster.

The same thing could be said for my R2880. The prints I get out of that
printer are superb. It would be nice, but pointless to upgrade to something
new, especially considering that I am not running a production print house.

Then there are a few lenses I have my eye on, and those might come first.


I know the feeling.

A friend of mine who has driven second hand Hond Legends (AKA Acura
RL) for years has lashed out and bought a highly spec'd
http://tinyurl.com/tejs3w3 His excuse was that he was coming up to the
age of 80 and he was running out of time to yield to desire ...


Nice!
A new car is another thing I have thought of, and can’t quite pull the
trigger on. My E350 has 46K trouble free miles on the clock. When I was
working I ran up 180K-220K before trading for new. My biological clock is
running a little behind you, and your friend with me at 68+. So, by this time
next year my mortgage will be paid off, and I will have a little extra
spending power, then we shall see what develops.

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Regards,
Savageduck

  #169  
Old July 4th 17, 10:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 04-Jul-17 5:31 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:42:04 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jul 3, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 21:57:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

When I get my 5K iMac I will let you know.

Are you waiting for the new model?


No. The model I want is available now.

I am not looking at the iMac Pro which is only going to be available at the
end of the year. What I am doing is prioritizing my spending, and
rationalizing my actual need in my head. I am trying to avoid acquisition for
acquisition’s sake. To do that I have to take into account that I actually
have an iMac which does everything I ask of it now. The primary reason I have
for buying the new iMac is to get my greedy hands on it.My major
consideration is the age of my current set up. The iMac is a mid-2010, and
eventually it is going to age out of the OS update window. I prefer to
preempt that by buying the replacement within the next six months, perhaps
earlier. To do that configured the way I want it, I would be spending
$2800-$3000. Once I have the new iMac, it wouldn’t actually be doing
anything different to what I am doing now, except, presumably faster.

The same thing could be said for my R2880. The prints I get out of that
printer are superb. It would be nice, but pointless to upgrade to something
new, especially considering that I am not running a production print house.

Then there are a few lenses I have my eye on, and those might come first.


I know the feeling.

A friend of mine who has driven second hand Hond Legends (AKA Acura
RL) for years has lashed out and bought a highly spec'd
http://tinyurl.com/tejs3w3 His excuse was that he was coming up to the
age of 80 and he was running out of time to yield to desire ...


He's "running out of time" - period!

A lot of folk die BEFORE they get to be 80 years of age. I lost another
one of my boater friends just yesterday after a year long battle with
cancer.

I don't NEED a new iMac ..... but I'll get one after this year's boating
season! ;-)

--
Regards,
David B.
  #170  
Old July 4th 17, 05:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 7/4/2017 5:16 AM, David B. wrote:



A lot of folk die BEFORE they get to be 80 years of age. I lost another
one of my boater friends just yesterday after a year long battle with
cancer.

I don't NEED a new iMac ..... but I'll get one after this year's boating
season! ;-)


I have three months to go, until I reach 80. I figure that since more
people die before they reach 80, than between 80 and 100, statistically,
my chances of reaching 100 are pretty good. Since the bucket in my list
has sprung a leak, I plan to see how many items in there I will use as
many as I can.



--
PeterN
 




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