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What life changing moments,do you wish you had photographed muchbetter ?
PixelPix wrote:
On Dec 18, 5:15 pm, Colin wrote: What (serious or humorous) past or present life-changing moments you've experienced so far, would you most like to have (or have had) professionally captured on film properly or much better, that for some reason you didn't, or if you did or anyone did so for you, it was done in a very mediocre manner for some reason and please why, for anything mentioned. Not life changing for me, but certainly for those onboard... http://www.pixelpix.com.au/samples/CAPSIZE.jpg This is the shot that got away I was busy shooting a landscape in AV mode (f22), when out the corner of my eye I saw this wave about to CLOBBER this boat. The 1st reflex was to turn and shoot.... the 2nd was to look and see if I caught the action.... the 3rd was to realise that I was in AV.... the 4th was to cry 1/20th @ f22 ...bummer! Now, if the skipper knew what he was doing, he'd have met the breaker square on, and applied power at the right time, and got through it with out flipping or overwash. Did he? The only time I witnessed a boat capsizing was one leaving Ft. Lauderdale in a storm. The guy wimped on the power, the boat yawed, and was soon filled with water. A boat about the size of your picture's. -- john mcwilliams |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:24:57 -0800, John McWilliams
wrote in : PixelPix wrote: Not life changing for me, but certainly for those onboard... http://www.pixelpix.com.au/samples/CAPSIZE.jpg This is the shot that got away I was busy shooting a landscape in AV mode (f22), when out the corner of my eye I saw this wave about to CLOBBER this boat. The 1st reflex was to turn and shoot.... the 2nd was to look and see if I caught the action.... the 3rd was to realise that I was in AV.... the 4th was to cry 1/20th @ f22 ...bummer! Now, if the skipper knew what he was doing, he'd have met the breaker square on, and applied power at the right time, and got through it with out flipping or overwash. Did he? The only time I witnessed a boat capsizing was one leaving Ft. Lauderdale in a storm. The guy wimped on the power, the boat yawed, and was soon filled with water. A boat about the size of your picture's. Up to a certain point that's true, but if the way is sufficiently big that won't help. I speak from experience. -- Best regards, John [Please Note: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/] |
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What life changing moments,do you wish you had photographed muchbetter ?
John Navas wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:24:57 -0800, John McWilliams wrote in : 1/20th @ f22 ...bummer! Now, if the skipper knew what he was doing, he'd have met the breaker square on, and applied power at the right time, and got through it with out flipping or overwash. Did he? The only time I witnessed a boat capsizing was one leaving Ft. Lauderdale in a storm. The guy wimped on the power, the boat yawed, and was soon filled with water. A boat about the size of your picture's. Up to a certain point that's true, but if the way is sufficiently big that won't help. I speak from experience. Hmmm. Wet experience?? Of course, the size, weight and power of the vessel and even its hull's shape, have to be in some proportion to the size and shape of wave. And harbor entrances tend to be the worst when the tide's on the ebb, there's a high onshore wind and sea, and rapidly shallowing bottoms funneling into a channel. -- john mcwilliams |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:55:10 -0800, John McWilliams
wrote in : John Navas wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:24:57 -0800, John McWilliams wrote in : 1/20th @ f22 ...bummer! Now, if the skipper knew what he was doing, he'd have met the breaker square on, and applied power at the right time, and got through it with out flipping or overwash. Did he? The only time I witnessed a boat capsizing was one leaving Ft. Lauderdale in a storm. The guy wimped on the power, the boat yawed, and was soon filled with water. A boat about the size of your picture's. Up to a certain point that's true, but if the [wave] is sufficiently big that won't help. I speak from experience. Hmmm. Wet experience?? Yep. In a lifetime on the water a certain amount of **** happens. In this case a huge breaking wave went completely over the top of a 50' sailboat hitting me at the wheel at the stern. Even though I drove the boat straight up the wave, the damage was substantial enough that the insides of the boat had to be almost completely torn out. Of course, the size, weight and power of the vessel and even its hull's shape, have to be in some proportion to the size and shape of wave. And harbor entrances tend to be the worst when the tide's on the ebb, there's a high onshore wind and sea, and rapidly shallowing bottoms funneling into a channel. Like Morro Bay. Here's an "Oh ****!!!": http://flickr.com/photos/metalcraftmarine/sets/72157594474119527/ -- Best regards, John [Please Note: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/] |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:21:43 -0800 (PST), PixelPix
wrote in : The best option would have been for the skipper to actually stop before the seaway and look for a while. This would have given him a better understanding of the conditions and allowed him to time his run better. Having not done that he put himself in the wrong place at the wrong time... Did you see him long enough to know he didn't do that? that said, he still should have been able to recognise what the wave was gunna do and had enough time to turn and run back or perhaps even sideways to a non-breaking section of the wave. A rogue wave can come up so suddenly there's no time to do that, and trying to turn around can easily make things worse -- getting sideways is a recipe for disaster -- the correct way is bow on. -- Best regards, John [Please Note: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/] |
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PixelPix wrote,on my timestamp of 19/12/2008 11:53 AM:
On Dec 19, 10:39 am, John Navas wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:21:43 -0800 (PST), PixelPix wrote in : The best option would have been for the skipper to actually stop before the seaway and look for a while. This would have given him a better understanding of the conditions and allowed him to time his run better. Having not done that he put himself in the wrong place at the wrong time... Did you see him long enough to know he didn't do that? Actually yes I did. I saw him enter the seaway some 1200m back and I thought nothing of it and turned back to continue my landscape shot. It was not long after this that he entered my peripheral.... so I am very certain that he did not take to the time to sit and watch. Was this taken in the Narooma or Bermagui bar? |
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PixelPix wrote,on my timestamp of 19/12/2008 6:23 PM:
Actually yes I did. I saw him enter the seaway some 1200m back and I thought nothing of it and turned back to continue my landscape shot. It was not long after this that he entered my peripheral.... so I am very certain that he did not take to the time to sit and watch. Was this taken in the Narooma or Bermagui bar? Gold Coast Seaway. (Southport, Queensland, Australia for our non- aussie friends) Ah yes, thanks. Was going to say I've seen a lot worse than this in the other two. Hope the guys in the boat ended up ok. |
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