35mm film VS digital

Just curious what people think about this comparison. IMHO, the current crop
of digital cameras blow away 35mm film, at least color print film. (Remember
grain? I was never satisfied with 8x10s blown up from 35mm film.)

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Bob D.

"Bob Donahue" wrote in message
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Just curious what people think about this comparison. IMHO, the current
crop of digital cameras blow away 35mm film, at least color print film.
(Remember grain? I was never satisfied with 8x10s blown up from 35mm
film.)

No 35mm film camera I ever used can touch the 5D. And, if the 50D delivers
as promised, the gap will grow even more.

The difference is there at ISO 100, but by ISO 800 digital absolutely blows
film out of the water.

"Bob Donahue" wrote in message
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........I was never satisfied with 8x10s blown up from 35mm film.)
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You need to change your colour lab Bobby boy - seriously.

"Bob Donahue" wrote in message . ..
Just curious what people think about this comparison. IMHO, the current crop
of digital cameras blow away 35mm film, at least color print film. (Remember
grain? I was never satisfied with 8x10s blown up from 35mm film.)

--
Bob D.



To almost everyone's replies...

It is interesting how you make the difference into a hot sport of only seeking
the best of perfection you can find in what you do, and racing_it_up that digital
is the answer in all of it's perfection capabilities... does anyone remember "art"
and the artististic capabilities of film photography? I personally can and yet
cannot justify the digital application of such effects as to being unnatural and
artificial, as well as too easily done... "apply filter effect"... done. I have seen
printed digital photographic art in galleries and online and in magazines and I
think it is mundane, boring and obvious no matter how fantastic it is.

What is acceptable 'to me' is the developing and scanning of film, that level of
digital and not much more.

IMO digital slr is for business imagery including weddings, wildlife, sports, war,
and journalism photography. P/S cameras are just for that, capturing a memory.

But as far as real art that is true art, film is the only way to go. And darkroom
all the better. I think art should be "Earthy", and humanly done by actual work
and imagination.

I really believe there should be some level of differenciation in everyone's digital
thinking about it. Try to, in your own mental capabilities, scope yourself a much
grander overall picture of photography and all of it's involvements.

Yet, I scan film to digital because I am too financially strapped to own a
darkroom. And that is because of health problems.

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Bob wrote on Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:03:29 -0400:

Just curious what people think about this comparison. IMHO,
the current crop of digital cameras blow away 35mm film, at
least color print film. (Remember grain? I was never satisfied
with 8x10s blown up from 35mm film.)


Can you buy film or new film cameras any more?
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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" wrote:

Can you buy film or new film cameras any more?

Yes. I don't know about cameras in the inferior subminiature 35mm format,
but most of "the usual suspscts" are still producing medium format film
cameras: Rolleiflex, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Alpa, Horseman. Fujifilm has
announced the first new folding camera in 25 years for release this fall.

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David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

David J. Littleboy wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote:
Can you buy film or new film cameras any more?

Yes. I don't know about cameras in the inferior subminiature 35mm format,


Don't get snotty! yes you can get 35mm film too... easier than 120 for
that matter.



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"Alan Browne" wrote:
David J. Littleboy wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote:
Can you buy film or new film cameras any more?

Yes. I don't know about cameras in the inferior subminiature 35mm format,

Don't get snotty!

Get real. 35mm is a joke and always has been. That's why it was so easy for
digital to trounce it.

yes you can get 35mm film too... easier than 120 for that matter.

Around here, 120 is available everywhere that sells film, and more new films
are coming out in 120 than 35mm. (Well, the four new Fuji pro negative films
(120 only) are getting to be somewhat old news, 3 or 4 years, by now.)

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David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

David J. Littleboy wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote:
David J. Littleboy wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote:
Can you buy film or new film cameras any more?
Yes. I don't know about cameras in the inferior subminiature 35mm format,
Don't get snotty!

Get real. 35mm is a joke and always has been. That's why it was so easy for
digital to trounce it.

Hmm, guess 50+ years of National Geographic was a joke. I'll write them
a note.

yes you can get 35mm film too... easier than 120 for that matter.

Around here, 120 is available everywhere that sells film, and more new films
are coming out in 120 than 35mm. (Well, the four new Fuji pro negative films
(120 only) are getting to be somewhat old news, 3 or 4 years, by now.)

Around here (living in the sticks) I have to order it at least a week in
advance and a minimum of a 5 pak. Or drive into the city. Yeah. Right.

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:03:29 -0400, Bob Donahue wrote:

Just curious what people think about this comparison. IMHO, the current
crop of digital cameras blow away 35mm film, at least color print film.
(Remember grain? I was never satisfied with 8x10s blown up from 35mm
film.)

I guess you've never seen prints from Kodak Ektar 25 color negative film
then. ISO 25. No grain. Smooth tonality. Too contrasty for normal
bright sunlight. No exposure latitude. A difficult film to work with,
but if you knew what you were doing, you could make 20 x 30 prints that
would knock your socks off. And, it came in 120 roll film, too! Too
bad, neither lasted.

Stef