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Old July 4th 15, 02:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
PeterN[_6_]
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This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg

thanks

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Old July 4th 15, 03:13 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400, PeterN
wrote:


This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg


Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.
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Old July 4th 15, 03:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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On 7/3/2015 10:13 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400, PeterN
wrote:


This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg


Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.


I was trying hand held. I know I should not have been too lazy to get a
tripod. I also want to test the ghost reduction. Does the tractor look
blurry?




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Old July 4th 15, 04:20 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_7_]
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On 2015-07-04 02:23:09 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/3/2015 10:13 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg


Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.


I was trying hand held. I know I should not have been too lazy to get a tripod.


That depends on the actual exposure range. What was your bracket EV
interval for the 5 exposures?

I also want to test the ghost reduction.


Ghost reduction is only going to come into play with unwanted movement,
such as a bird flying through the bracket set. Then you have to select
one of the exposures as the "Ghost Removal Reference" shot and adjust
the Ghost removal strength appropriately.

It seems that you have a serious alignment problem whch the ghost
removal will not fix.

Does the tractor look blurry?


Very.

My solution would be to use Lightroom Photo Merge - HDR. See my prior
post or if you want more detailed help we can move this to email.


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Old July 4th 15, 04:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-07-04 03:20:21 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2015-07-04 02:23:09 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/3/2015 10:13 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg

Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.


I was trying hand held. I know I should not have been too lazy to get a tripod.


That depends on the actual exposure range. What was your bracket EV
interval for the 5 exposures?

I also want to test the ghost reduction.


Ghost reduction is only going to come into play with unwanted movement,
such as a bird flying through the bracket set. Then you have to select
one of the exposures as the "Ghost Removal Reference" shot and adjust
the Ghost removal strength appropriately.

It seems that you have a serious alignment problem whch the ghost
removal will not fix.

Does the tractor look blurry?


Very.

My solution would be to use Lightroom Photo Merge - HDR. See my prior
post or if you want more detailed help we can move this to email.


This might give you some idea of how I use Photo Merge - HDR in LR for
a single exposure. In the case of your bracket I would choose the 0 EV
and work with that in LR.
https://db.tt/nIuPyfxx

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Regards,

Savageduck

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Old July 4th 15, 05:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On Jul 3, 2015, Savageduck wrote
(in article201507032059444107-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom):

On 2015-07-04 03:20:21 +0000, said:

On 2015-07-04 02:23:09 +0000, said:

On 7/3/2015 10:13 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400,
wrote:

This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and the

BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so

blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...h_0105_HDR.jpg

Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.

I was trying hand held. I know I should not have been too lazy to get a
tripod.


That depends on the actual exposure range. What was your bracket EV
interval for the 5 exposures?

I also want to test the ghost reduction.


Ghost reduction is only going to come into play with unwanted movement,
such as a bird flying through the bracket set. Then you have to select
one of the exposures as the "Ghost Removal Reference" shot and adjust
the Ghost removal strength appropriately.

It seems that you have a serious alignment problem whch the ghost
removal will not fix.

Does the tractor look blurry?


Very.

My solution would be to use Lightroom Photo Merge - HDR. See my prior
post or if you want more detailed help we can move this to email.


This might give you some idea of how I use Photo Merge -HDR in LR for
a single exposure. In the case of your bracket I would choose the 0 EV
and work with that in LR.
https://db.tt/nIuPyfxx


There seems to be something screwy with that DB link so I am gong to pull the
file and use CC instead.
http://adobe.ly/1f9SJdj

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Regards,
Savageduck


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Old July 4th 15, 10:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Joe Makowiec
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On 03 Jul 2015 in rec.photo.digital, Savageduck wrote:

This might give you some idea of how I use Photo Merge - HDR in LR
for a single exposure. In the case of your bracket I would choose
the 0 EV and work with that in LR.


Did I see a method posted recently for doing this in Photoshop? It
involved a couple of layers and de-linking them from the original image.

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Old July 4th 15, 10:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 20:59:44 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

My solution would be to use Lightroom Photo Merge - HDR. See my prior
post or if you want more detailed help we can move this to email.


This might give you some idea of how I use Photo Merge - HDR in LR for
a single exposure. In the case of your bracket I would choose the 0 EV
and work with that in LR.
https://db.tt/nIuPyfxx


My hackles always rise when this process is called HDR.

A single-shot HDR image can only be a pseudo-HDR image in that it has
been obtained from no more dynamic range than is contained in the
original single image.

The conventional HDR process extends the dynamic range of the final
image beyond that of any single image by combining data from more than
one image of different exposures.
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Eric Stevens
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Old July 4th 15, 01:48 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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On 7/3/2015 11:20 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-07-04 02:23:09 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/3/2015 10:13 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and
the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so
blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg


Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.


I was trying hand held. I know I should not have been too lazy to get
a tripod.


That depends on the actual exposure range. What was your bracket EV
interval for the 5 exposures?

I also want to test the ghost reduction.


Ghost reduction is only going to come into play with unwanted movement,
such as a bird flying through the bracket set. Then you have to select
one of the exposures as the "Ghost Removal Reference" shot and adjust
the Ghost removal strength appropriately.

It seems that you have a serious alignment problem whch the ghost
removal will not fix.


Yep. Hand held shots for HDR don't work for me. Not every experiment works.


Does the tractor look blurry?


Very.

My solution would be to use Lightroom Photo Merge - HDR. See my prior
post or if you want more detailed help we can move this to email.



Thanks, I used single image HDR as peviously described.

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PeterN
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Old July 4th 15, 01:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_7_]
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On 2015-07-04 12:48:28 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/3/2015 11:20 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-07-04 02:23:09 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/3/2015 10:13 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:56:11 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

This was a 5 exposure HDR, converted to BW. The HDR rendition and
the BW
conversion were done using NIK software. No other modifications were
made. I cannot undertand why the vertical post on the door is so
blurry,
compared to the ret of the image. What did I misss?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20150703_Amish_0105_HDR.jpg


Something appears to have gone very wrong. The whole image looks
blurry to me, but it looks like a multiple exposure in general. I
don't know if I'm seeing moire, or something else. Did the camera move
between exposures? Or did something else change? Did you use a tripod?

Then again, I'm sure others here will have a better analysis.

I was trying hand held. I know I should not have been too lazy to get
a tripod.


That depends on the actual exposure range. What was your bracket EV
interval for the 5 exposures?

I also want to test the ghost reduction.


Ghost reduction is only going to come into play with unwanted movement,
such as a bird flying through the bracket set. Then you have to select
one of the exposures as the "Ghost Removal Reference" shot and adjust
the Ghost removal strength appropriately.

It seems that you have a serious alignment problem whch the ghost
removal will not fix.


Yep. Hand held shots for HDR don't work for me. Not every experiment works.


Does the tractor look blurry?


Very.

My solution would be to use Lightroom Photo Merge - HDR. See my prior
post or if you want more detailed help we can move this to email.


Thanks, I used single image HDR as peviously described.


I think that was not the way to go as you would not have a 32-bit DR.
You will only get that using some such as Photomatix or the LR method I
detailed. Just stop stubbornly hanging on to DxO. Import the NEFs into
LR and go from there.

Your result will be better. I could prove that.


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