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Old May 11th 05, 03:23 PM
David Geesaman
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Default 300d vs 350d for action shots and low light

I recently bought a lightly used 300d. I've been pleased with the
results, but there are 2 gripes about it for the indoor and outdoor action
photography I do.
1) Speed - faster 'on' would be a huge asset when photographing horses.
Sometimes that moment you want to capture doesn't wait 1.5s. Does it really
help you action photographers that much?

2) Noise - in low light, or high speed shutter situations this is a big
challenge. Although I can mostly blame my inexperience, at ISO 800 and 1600
I would like better results. (Side question: would better quality lenses be
a more significant improvement? - I'm using the 18-55 kit lens and 75-300
Tamron since I'm starting on a budget)

I've heard the 350d is improved in these areas. I would appreciate any
comments as to whether I would benefit noticeably if I sold the 300d now
(while it's still in perfect shape) and upgraded to the 350d.

Thanks,

Dave



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Old May 11th 05, 03:52 PM
John Tucker
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Dave,

If you don't mind post-processing for getting rid of the noise, Neat Image
does a good job. It would help with that budget you're starting. :-)

http://www.neatimage.com/

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David Geesaman wrote:
I recently bought a lightly used 300d. I've been pleased with the
results, but there are 2 gripes about it for the indoor and outdoor
action photography I do.
1) Speed - faster 'on' would be a huge asset when photographing
horses. Sometimes that moment you want to capture doesn't wait 1.5s. Does
it really help you action photographers that much?

2) Noise - in low light, or high speed shutter situations this is a
big challenge. Although I can mostly blame my inexperience, at ISO
800 and 1600 I would like better results. (Side question: would
better quality lenses be a more significant improvement? - I'm using
the 18-55 kit lens and 75-300 Tamron since I'm starting on a budget)

I've heard the 350d is improved in these areas. I would
appreciate any comments as to whether I would benefit noticeably if I
sold the 300d now (while it's still in perfect shape) and upgraded to
the 350d.
Thanks,

Dave



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Old May 12th 05, 12:41 AM
Steve Cutchen
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In article , David Geesaman
wrote:

I recently bought a lightly used 300d. I've been pleased with the
results, but there are 2 gripes about it for the indoor and outdoor action
photography I do.
1) Speed - faster 'on' would be a huge asset when photographing horses.
Sometimes that moment you want to capture doesn't wait 1.5s. Does it really
help you action photographers that much?


I've set the "auto power off" timer to 8 minutes... Onlike P&S cameras
that tend to have their screens on a lot, the 300D will not use much
battery just sitting on.

2) Noise - in low light, or high speed shutter situations this is a big
challenge. Although I can mostly blame my inexperience, at ISO 800 and 1600
I would like better results. (Side question: would better quality lenses be
a more significant improvement? - I'm using the 18-55 kit lens and 75-300
Tamron since I'm starting on a budget)


I shoot indoor volleyball. I bought a Mk I 50mm 1.8 to use in really
low light, but so far I'm getting great results with the kit lens and
running ISO 3200 (from the Russian hack). Then I post-process with
Noise Ninja. Noise Ninja allows you to easily create a custom noise
profile for your specific camera and lens at eash ISO setting, and when
run with a custom profile does an amazing job.

http://www.picturecode.com/index.htm


I've heard the 350d is improved in these areas. I would appreciate any
comments as to whether I would benefit noticeably if I sold the 300d now
(while it's still in perfect shape) and upgraded to the 350d.

Thanks,

Dave



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Old May 12th 05, 02:08 AM
Alan Browne
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Steve Cutchen wrote:


I shoot indoor volleyball. I bought a Mk I 50mm 1.8 to use in really
low light, but so far I'm getting great results with the kit lens and
running ISO 3200 (from the Russian hack). Then I post-process with
Noise Ninja. Noise Ninja allows you to easily create a custom noise
profile for your specific camera and lens at eash ISO setting, and when
run with a custom profile does an amazing job.



I'd like to see a lot more skin (faces, etc) before deciding how good
noise ninja is or isn't.

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Old May 12th 05, 04:46 AM
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Steve Cutchen wrote:

I've set the "auto power off" timer to 8 minutes... Onlike P&S cameras
that tend to have their screens on a lot, the 300D will not use much
battery just sitting on.



I've left my D70 on overnight & the battery is fine!?!?

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Old May 12th 05, 05:16 AM
DoN. Nichols
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In article ,
Paul Furman wrote:
Steve Cutchen wrote:

I've set the "auto power off" timer to 8 minutes... Onlike P&S cameras
that tend to have their screens on a lot, the 300D will not use much
battery just sitting on.



I've left my D70 on overnight & the battery is fine!?!?


Sure -- it does not do a full power off -- but it turns off
everything which draws much power (the display, autofocus, that sort of
thing), and it can last quite a long time just running the cameratop
display -- and ready to spring to life at the half-press of a shutter
button.

And even when you turn it "off" with the switch around the
button, it is still running a part of the cameratop display -- the
remaining exposures count, and the sensors to tell when you remove or
install a CF card, so it can update the count.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Old May 12th 05, 05:43 AM
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Alan Browne wrote:

Steve Cutchen wrote:


I shoot indoor volleyball. I bought a Mk I 50mm 1.8 to use in really
low light, but so far I'm getting great results with the kit lens and
running ISO 3200 (from the Russian hack). Then I post-process with
Noise Ninja. Noise Ninja allows you to easily create a custom noise
profile for your specific camera and lens at eash ISO setting, and when
run with a custom profile does an amazing job.


I'd like to see a lot more skin


different newsgroup?

(faces, etc) before deciding how good
noise ninja is or isn't.

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Old May 12th 05, 02:36 PM
Alan Browne
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Crownfield wrote:


different newsgroup?



As I wrote that I knew somebody would make such a comment...

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Old May 13th 05, 05:27 AM
Skip M
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Crownfield wrote:


different newsgroup?



As I wrote that I knew somebody would make such a comment...


well, there is always alt.binaries.nude... ;-)

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Old May 13th 05, 01:02 PM
Steve Cutchen
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In article Q0Wge.13810$Fa1.4262@fed1read02, Skip M
wrote:

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
...
Crownfield wrote:


different newsgroup?



As I wrote that I knew somebody would make such a comment...


well, there is always alt.binaries.nude... ;-)


or alt.binaries.nekkid...

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Folks in THAT group are UP to something...
 




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