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Fuji GW690III lens contrast
I know this is a very sharp lens, but I wonder if it's "too" sharp. I
have noticed that grain tend to be exaggerated when using and tonality is not that smooth compared to other lenses. I read a review saying that it tends to "posterize" images; it seems that the reviwer was describing what I'm starting to notice. Does anybody share the same openion? regards, J |
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Jytzel wrote:
I know this is a very sharp lens, but I wonder if it's "too" sharp. I have noticed that grain tend to be exaggerated when using and tonality is not that smooth compared to other lenses. I read a review saying that it tends to "posterize" images; it seems that the reviwer was describing what I'm starting to notice. Does anybody share the same openion? Use softer film if you don't like the high contrast. Also how are you having it printed? If you're shooting something like reala and printing it on consumer fuji crystal archive paper, it's going to look nasty if the lens has good contrast. Try kodak pro paper in the softer portrait grades. It's easy to tone down a high contrast lens, it's hard to make a soft lens look sharp. Then again you -could- just throw a softar in front of it! :-) -- Stacey |
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Stacey wrote in message ...
Jytzel wrote: I know this is a very sharp lens, but I wonder if it's "too" sharp. I have noticed that grain tend to be exaggerated when using and tonality is not that smooth compared to other lenses. I read a review saying that it tends to "posterize" images; it seems that the reviwer was describing what I'm starting to notice. Does anybody share the same openion? Use softer film if you don't like the high contrast. Also how are you having it printed? If you're shooting something like reala and printing it on consumer fuji crystal archive paper, it's going to look nasty if the lens has good contrast. Try kodak pro paper in the softer portrait grades. It's easy to tone down a high contrast lens, it's hard to make a soft lens look sharp. Then again you -could- just throw a softar in front of it! :-) Thanks for the "valuable" advice. I already know that but I'm afraid the solutions you advised are too simplistic and reflects that you don't know what I'm talking about. Have you ever tried the camera? thanks |
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Thanks for the "valuable" advice. I already know that but I'm afraid
the solutions you advised are too simplistic and reflects that you don't know what I'm talking about. Have you ever tried the camera? thanks I like these kinds of replys as it kinda indicates the writer already knows the answer. Anyway, yes I have used the GW690III camera. MTF values are most likely very high at small magnifications much like the Hasselblad. Since at least 50% of Hasselblad usage is for weddings and Kodak thought to design a lower contrast film just for weddings, I would say using a 160 type wedding film designed for detail in a white dress would bring the contrast way down. Larry |
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Jytzel wrote: Stacey wrote in message ... Jytzel wrote: I know this is a very sharp lens, but I wonder if it's "too" sharp. I have noticed that grain tend to be exaggerated when using and tonality is not that smooth compared to other lenses. I read a review saying that it tends to "posterize" images; it seems that the reviwer was describing what I'm starting to notice. Does anybody share the same openion? Use softer film if you don't like the high contrast. Also how are you having it printed? If you're shooting something like reala and printing it on consumer fuji crystal archive paper, it's going to look nasty if the lens has good contrast. Try kodak pro paper in the softer portrait grades. It's easy to tone down a high contrast lens, it's hard to make a soft lens look sharp. Then again you -could- just throw a softar in front of it! :-) Thanks for the "valuable" advice. I already know that but I'm afraid the solutions you advised are too simplistic and reflects that you don't know what I'm talking about. Have you ever tried the camera? thanks I believe Stacy's reply was valuable. My experience with my GSW690III and Velvia was similar to yours. Changing to Provia tamed the lens substantially. Jeff. |
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Jytzel wrote:
Stacey wrote in message ... Jytzel wrote: I know this is a very sharp lens, but I wonder if it's "too" sharp. I have noticed that grain tend to be exaggerated when using and tonality is not that smooth compared to other lenses. I read a review saying that it tends to "posterize" images; it seems that the reviwer was describing what I'm starting to notice. Does anybody share the same openion? Use softer film if you don't like the high contrast. Also how are you having it printed? If you're shooting something like reala and printing it on consumer fuji crystal archive paper, it's going to look nasty if the lens has good contrast. Try kodak pro paper in the softer portrait grades. It's easy to tone down a high contrast lens, it's hard to make a soft lens look sharp. Then again you -could- just throw a softar in front of it! :-) Thanks for the "valuable" advice. I already know that but I'm afraid the solutions you advised are too simplistic and reflects that you don't know what I'm talking about. Have you ever tried the camera? Used one (GSW6X9) for almost a dozen years so yea I know a little about them. Sorry you think I'm clueless about this. Might as well sell it if you can't understand how the film and paper you're using are what the problem probably is. -- Stacey |
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Stacey wrote in message ...
Jytzel wrote: Stacey wrote in message Used one (GSW6X9) for almost a dozen years so yea I know a little about them. Sorry you think I'm clueless about this. Might as well sell it if you can't understand how the film and paper you're using are what the problem probably is. I´m striclty talking about lens characteristics, not about film or paper.. Just lens.., L.E.N.S J. |
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Jytzel wrote:
Stacey wrote in message ... Jytzel wrote: Stacey wrote in message Used one (GSW6X9) for almost a dozen years so yea I know a little about them. Sorry you think I'm clueless about this. Might as well sell it if you can't understand how the film and paper you're using are what the problem probably is. I´m striclty talking about lens characteristics, not about film or paper.. Just lens.., L.E.N.S So what are you going to do? Change the L.E.N.S.? Yes you've discovered these lenses have VERY high contrast (bravo!), which IMHO is a good thing. It's easier to tame high contrast than to try to increase contrast on a soft lens. If you insist on using high contrast film/paper (velvia? Or consumer grade paper?) like you would use with a low contrast lens/camera, the only other solution is to sell the camera for one with a lower contrast lens so you can use your high contrast film/paper. It's really not that complicated. I guess you could try something like a tiffen soft contrast filter? Seems easier to me to just use softer film. If you don't like the look this type of lens produces, stay away from anything like a 'blad, mamiya etc. Something like an older single coated bronica lens might produce what you're after using the film you want to use? For me, I'd rather just try another type of film. -- Stacey |
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Stacey wrote in message ...
Jytzel wrote: If you don't like the look this type of lens produces, stay away from anything like a 'blad, mamiya etc. Something like an older single coated bronica lens might produce what you're after using the film you want to use? For me, I'd rather just try another type of film. Just for the note: contrast is very different between Hassy, Mamiya and GW690III. good luck J |
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When you ask for advise, you have to listen, not argue.
Over the past couple of years, members like Stacey and David L. have given me much advise on MF gear. If I haven't thank'd them in the past, I'm going to do it now. Jeff. PS: Silence is golden. Jytzel wrote: Stacey wrote in message ... Jytzel wrote: If you don't like the look this type of lens produces, stay away from anything like a 'blad, mamiya etc. Something like an older single coated bronica lens might produce what you're after using the film you want to use? For me, I'd rather just try another type of film. Just for the note: contrast is very different between Hassy, Mamiya and GW690III. good luck J |
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