Here is information about the Virginia Tech killer

"Tim May" wrote in message
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In article om, The
Source wrote:

Last Name: Cho
Major: Engineering (Senior)

Firearm #1: Glock 19

Firearm #2: Walther P-22


It is not permissable to imply that a killer is Mongoloid or Negroid.

Please rewrite this information to comply with directives that refer to
school killers as Caucasoid. Use of terms like "good ole boys" and
"rednecks," and "white punks on dope" are suggested as acceptable
replacements for any references to Asian, Oriental, etc.


--Tim May
all hillbillies, rednecks, good ole boys, gomers,goobers,clod hoppers, etc.
are mongoloid

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:
in the last two decades, since Florida kicked off the current round of
expansions in 1987. The chance of meeting an armed civilian is, I will
venture to guess, at a 30-year high.

looks like they met one today,

some people shouldn't be armed

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:20:35 +0200, Alfred Molon
wrote:

In article 200704162124398930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom,
says...

A single armed student could have stopped him. Thirty armed students
would have turned him into Swiss cheese the moment he threatened them.

As it is, the American public is so helpless that it will not be long
before the whole country could be taken over by a couple goons armed
with spoons.

On the other hand here in Germany where firearms are not as widespread
as in the USA such massacres are unknown. There have been some small
isolated accidents in the past, but nothing comparable to what you have
in the USA.


Look at Norway, Canada and Finland where gun ownership is nearly as high
or higher than the US and such massacres are unknown.

So perhaps its NOT the guns afterall...

Gunner

"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:34:31 -0700, "Billzz"
wrote:

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
m...
In article 200704162124398930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom,
says...

A single armed student could have stopped him. Thirty armed students
would have turned him into Swiss cheese the moment he threatened them.

As it is, the American public is so helpless that it will not be long
before the whole country could be taken over by a couple goons armed
with spoons.

On the other hand here in Germany where firearms are not as widespread
as in the USA such massacres are unknown. There have been some small
isolated accidents in the past, but nothing comparable to what you have
in the USA.
--

Alfred Molon

I am guessing that you did not live in Germany when we lived in Germany.

http://www.germanculture.com.ua/libr...y/aa060499.htm


But..but..but they were marxists...so should be given a pass.

Right? Power to the People and all that leftist stuff.

Gunner


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"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist

Gunner writes:

Look at Norway, Canada and Finland where gun ownership is nearly as high
or higher than the US and such massacres are unknown.

I'd be surprised if gun ownership in Finland was nearly as high as in
the US; after all, you need a permit to own one legally and the more
powerful the weapon, the harder it gets.. add to this that most people
aren't interested in owning one anyway.

Got any numbers?

last name = Cho,
Cho = Korean , most likely .


On Apr 17, 10:52 am, The Source wrote:
Last Name: Cho
Major: Engineering (Senior)

Firearm #1: Glock 19

Firearm #2: Walther P-22

In article ,
David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

A single armed student could have stopped him. Thirty armed students
would have turned him into Swiss cheese the moment he threatened them.

Armed faculty or staff are more likely (except for Virginia law
specifically banning carry on campuses) because nearly everybody limits
carry to people 21 or over, which cuts out most undergrads and hence a
pretty large proportion of the students (grad students are generally a
rather small proportion of the total students at a big university, and
undergrads over 21 certainly exist, but aren't the norm either).

There is no requirement that everyone be armed. If only 10% were
armed the perp would have been killed almost instantly, if only
1% were armed he would have been stopped long before he killed 32.

In article 200704162124398930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom, C J
Campbell wrote:

A single armed student could have stopped him. Thirty armed students
would have turned him into Swiss cheese the moment he threatened them.

As it is, the American public is so helpless that it will not be long
before the whole country could be taken over by a couple goons armed
with spoons.

You know, I said exactly that to some (admittedly rather liberal)
friends yesterday - that the whole thing got out of hand because there
weren't enough guns around. They didn't simply disagree; they literally
couldn't grasp what I was saying.

"But... guns are bad, guns are dangerous; how could a gun make us safe?"

When I explained that armed citizens might have defended themselves and
STOPPED this guy, the discussion turned to speculation on how to
"authorize" people (to defend themselves), and, God help me, liability
issues.

Now I'M the one who can't comprehend...

In the previous article, Alfred Molon
wrote:
On the other hand here in Germany where firearms are not as
widespread as in the USA such massacres are unknown.

Oh, I can think of a counter-example or two.
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Scott Schuckert writes:

"But... guns are bad, guns are dangerous; how could a gun make us safe?"

When I explained that armed citizens might have defended themselves and
STOPPED this guy, the discussion turned to speculation on how to
"authorize" people (to defend themselves), and, God help me, liability
issues.

Now I'M the one who can't comprehend...


I think both things will become true: if more people had guns, more
people would be shooting other people when they go crazy. However,
they will be stopped faster. Who knows it the net total would be for
the better or worse? Please, do make an experiment like this in the
US, we can watch from the sidelines and see if it was a good decision.