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Which Maxxum lenses would you recommend?
Hi all-
In anticipation of the new Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D Digi-SLR, I'm trying to read up on the lenses that are available that will work with this camera. I've been shooting film with a SRT101 and a XD11 and sadly won't be able to use the wonderful lenses I've collected... What I'd like it something comperable to what I have now: 1) 50mm MD/1.2 RokkorX - Very nice for night shooting and getting very close up on subjects. Also seems to impart some sort of warmth to images. 2) 45mm MD/2.0 Rokkor Pancake - Small lens, amazingly sharp. 3) 100mm MD/2.4 Rokkor - Great lens for portaiture. 4) 70-210/4.0 MD Zoom - Great zoom. I took a lot of time to read up on these lenses and they've served me well. Now it seems I'll need to read up on what lenses are out there for the Maxxum that can give me comperable quality. I'd like to cherry-pick the best of the Maxxum lenses that can give me the same palatte as the lenses above. Was there a "golden" series of Maxxum lenses? I'd also be interested to know what I can expect price-wise approximately. The joy of my other Minolta lenses was how cheap they were. I'm hoping the Maxxum lenses are a little undervalued as well. Thoughts? Thanks very much for the assistance. Lee |
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Lee Howard wrote:
Hi all- In anticipation of the new Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D Digi-SLR, I'm trying to read up on the lenses that are available that will work with this camera. I've been shooting film with a SRT101 and a XD11 and sadly won't be able to use the wonderful lenses I've collected... What I'd like it something comperable to what I have now: Hi Lee, First point, as I'm sure you're aware, is the crop factor (1.53x). As such, there are few one to one replacements. Inconvenient. So let's look at lenses that will give aprox. the same field of view. 1) 50mm MD/1.2 RokkorX - Very nice for night shooting and getting very close up on subjects. Also seems to impart some sort of warmth to images. Closest match would be the 35mm f/2, alas more than a stop slower than your lens. OTOH, at moderate sensitivity, (ISO 200 - 400) you can regain that stop with little perceptible increase in noise ... and no increase in grain on a digital camera. There is a faster lens, the 35mm f/1.4, but it is slightly less sharp, and certainly more expensive than the f/2. 2) 45mm MD/2.0 Rokkor Pancake - Small lens, amazingly sharp. 28mm f/2. Not as small as the 45mm. No idea about sharpeness other than the rating on photodo of 4.1 which is pretty good, but not stunning. 3) 100mm MD/2.4 Rokkor - Great lens for portaiture. 85 f/1.4 It will be a bit long, but it is a very good portrait lens on film, and should be great on digital ... if you have the room to use it. You might try a 50mm f/1.7 or 50 f/1.4 instead for portraits on the digital and get use to working a little closer. 4) 70-210/4.0 MD Zoom - Great zoom. Bummer. (The AF version of that lens has a great rep, I can only assume the MD is as good if not better). I say bummer as there is no lens that will replace that converted FL. The 35-105 is a possibility but will leave you a bit short and it isn't in the classs of the 70-210 f/4 regarding sharpness. I'll be using my 28-70 f/2.8 and 80-200 f/2.8 to cover that range (and then some), but that is not total convenience... (but is blistering performance for zooms). I took a lot of time to read up on these lenses and they've served me well. Now it seems I'll need to read up on what lenses are out there for the Maxxum that can give me comperable quality. I'd like to cherry-pick the best of the Maxxum lenses that can give me the same palatte as the lenses above. Was there a "golden" series of Maxxum lenses? There are several magnificent Maxxum lenses. I'm sure Magnus and Bill Tuthill will chime in with their favourites... (and nit mine ;-) ) #1: Maxxum 100 f/2.8 macro. The sharpest Maxxum lens. Vert good for portrait on film. But at eff. 150mm on the digital body will not often be used for portrait... got it - love it. There is also a non-macro, variable soft focus 100mm f/2.8 that others in this NG favour for portraiture. Other very good/excellent Maxxum lenses. 20 f/2.8 50 f/2.8 50 f/1.4 85 f/1.4 G 135 f/2.8 STF [T 4.5] 200 f/2.8 G 28-70 f/2.8 G 80-200 f/2.8 G In the consumer grade the 24-105 f/3.5-4.5 is very decent and at 1.5 crop should be very versatile. There is another mid range consumer zoom that is quite well regarded, but I can't remember which... BT, Mag or someone will chime in, I'm sure... I'd also be interested to know what I can expect price-wise approximately. The joy of my other Minolta lenses was how cheap they were. I'm hoping the Maxxum lenses are a little undervalued as well. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home http://www.adorama.com/ etc. Have fun. Alan. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- [SI rulz] http://www.aliasimages.com/si/rulz.html -- [SI gallery] www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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Lee Howard wrote:
Hi all- In anticipation of the new Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D Digi-SLR, I'm trying to read up on the lenses that are available that will work with this camera. I've been shooting film with a SRT101 and a XD11 and sadly won't be able to use the wonderful lenses I've collected... What I'd like it something comperable to what I have now: Hi Lee, First point, as I'm sure you're aware, is the crop factor (1.53x). As such, there are few one to one replacements. Inconvenient. So let's look at lenses that will give aprox. the same field of view. 1) 50mm MD/1.2 RokkorX - Very nice for night shooting and getting very close up on subjects. Also seems to impart some sort of warmth to images. Closest match would be the 35mm f/2, alas more than a stop slower than your lens. OTOH, at moderate sensitivity, (ISO 200 - 400) you can regain that stop with little perceptible increase in noise ... and no increase in grain on a digital camera. There is a faster lens, the 35mm f/1.4, but it is slightly less sharp, and certainly more expensive than the f/2. 2) 45mm MD/2.0 Rokkor Pancake - Small lens, amazingly sharp. 28mm f/2. Not as small as the 45mm. No idea about sharpeness other than the rating on photodo of 4.1 which is pretty good, but not stunning. 3) 100mm MD/2.4 Rokkor - Great lens for portaiture. 85 f/1.4 It will be a bit long, but it is a very good portrait lens on film, and should be great on digital ... if you have the room to use it. You might try a 50mm f/1.7 or 50 f/1.4 instead for portraits on the digital and get use to working a little closer. 4) 70-210/4.0 MD Zoom - Great zoom. Bummer. (The AF version of that lens has a great rep, I can only assume the MD is as good if not better). I say bummer as there is no lens that will replace that converted FL. The 35-105 is a possibility but will leave you a bit short and it isn't in the classs of the 70-210 f/4 regarding sharpness. I'll be using my 28-70 f/2.8 and 80-200 f/2.8 to cover that range (and then some), but that is not total convenience... (but is blistering performance for zooms). I took a lot of time to read up on these lenses and they've served me well. Now it seems I'll need to read up on what lenses are out there for the Maxxum that can give me comperable quality. I'd like to cherry-pick the best of the Maxxum lenses that can give me the same palatte as the lenses above. Was there a "golden" series of Maxxum lenses? There are several magnificent Maxxum lenses. I'm sure Magnus and Bill Tuthill will chime in with their favourites... (and nit mine ;-) ) #1: Maxxum 100 f/2.8 macro. The sharpest Maxxum lens. Vert good for portrait on film. But at eff. 150mm on the digital body will not often be used for portrait... got it - love it. There is also a non-macro, variable soft focus 100mm f/2.8 that others in this NG favour for portraiture. Other very good/excellent Maxxum lenses. 20 f/2.8 50 f/2.8 50 f/1.4 85 f/1.4 G 135 f/2.8 STF [T 4.5] 200 f/2.8 G 28-70 f/2.8 G 80-200 f/2.8 G In the consumer grade the 24-105 f/3.5-4.5 is very decent and at 1.5 crop should be very versatile. There is another mid range consumer zoom that is quite well regarded, but I can't remember which... BT, Mag or someone will chime in, I'm sure... I'd also be interested to know what I can expect price-wise approximately. The joy of my other Minolta lenses was how cheap they were. I'm hoping the Maxxum lenses are a little undervalued as well. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home http://www.adorama.com/ etc. Have fun. Alan. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- [SI rulz] http://www.aliasimages.com/si/rulz.html -- [SI gallery] www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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Magnus W wrote:
Do remember that with the 1.5x "crop factor" you will need different (larger!) lenses to achieve the same thing. Another thing is also important shorter to achieve the same thing. eg: a 50mm will give the FOV of a "75mm". to remember when shopping around for older lenses -- as often older optical designs are used, they aren't optimized for digital in any way. How the older designs work with the D7D, especially WRT chromatic aberrations, is still totally up in the air. Good point. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- [SI rulz]: http://www.aliasimages.com/si/rulz.html -- [SI gallery]: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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Magnus W wrote:
Do remember that with the 1.5x "crop factor" you will need different (larger!) lenses to achieve the same thing. Another thing is also important shorter to achieve the same thing. eg: a 50mm will give the FOV of a "75mm". to remember when shopping around for older lenses -- as often older optical designs are used, they aren't optimized for digital in any way. How the older designs work with the D7D, especially WRT chromatic aberrations, is still totally up in the air. Good point. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- [SI rulz]: http://www.aliasimages.com/si/rulz.html -- [SI gallery]: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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Magnus W wrote:
Do remember that with the 1.5x "crop factor" you will need different (larger!) lenses to achieve the same thing. Another thing is also important shorter to achieve the same thing. eg: a 50mm will give the FOV of a "75mm". to remember when shopping around for older lenses -- as often older optical designs are used, they aren't optimized for digital in any way. How the older designs work with the D7D, especially WRT chromatic aberrations, is still totally up in the air. Good point. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- [SI rulz]: http://www.aliasimages.com/si/rulz.html -- [SI gallery]: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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Alan Browne wrote in
: Magnus W wrote: Do remember that with the 1.5x "crop factor" you will need different (larger!) lenses to achieve the same thing. Another thing is also important shorter to achieve the same thing. eg: a 50mm will give the FOV of a "75mm". I said "larger", not "longer". As in "physically larger". To get a 50, you'll need a 35, and so on. I mentioned it because the OP seemed to be favoring small lenses. |
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Magnus W wrote:
Alan Browne wrote in Do remember that with the 1.5x "crop factor" you will need different (larger!) lenses to achieve the same thing. Another thing is also important shorter to achieve the same thing. eg: a 50mm will give the FOV of a "75mm". I said "larger", not "longer". As in "physically larger". To get a 50, you'll need a 35, and so on. I mentioned it because the OP seemed to be favoring small lenses. I mistook your meaning. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- [SI rulz]: http://www.aliasimages.com/si/rulz.html -- [SI gallery]: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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