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wrote in message ... On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:05:27 -0700, "Mark M" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:18:29 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Mark M writes: And you feel that responding at their low level will somehow lead to a more productive exchange? No, I feel that defending my rights will allow me to keep them. It may also make you prone to hospital stays and obnoxiousness. So you hold avoiding a punch in the face as more precious than your civil rights? How courageous. There is courageous wisdom, and then there courageous stupidity. Be boldly state...bravely defend, but don't be stupid. Being wisely brave doesn't necessarily mean cowardice, or a lack of resolve. You must not only pick your battles, but choose the extent of physical damage each indidual battle is worth. To some, violence is ALWAYS their alternative of choice. -But then, we have over two million people in prison in the US as a result of that attitude... Like bilong yu... I'm sure Butterfly will meditate long on the fruits of your beatific wisdom, O Master. Ummm... Thanks??? No-thanks??? ??? Butterfly? Isn't that... "Grasshopper"?? -Or more accurately, "Gross-hoppah." |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:50:08 -0700, Big Bill wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 03:32:25 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: Mark M writes: Be boldly state...bravely defend, but don't be stupid. In other words, talk big, but immediately submit in the face of any kind of real or imagined threat? You seem to have this rqather amusing habit of taking things to the extreme right away. Considering the incident that the OP described, are you saying that you'd go to a fight to prevent your 'right' to be left alone in that situation? Just how far do you think you'd go to protect your rights? Take another situation: let's say you catch someone taking pohotographs through your bedroom window; would you go to physical lengths to stop this person? SHades? You wimp pacifist!! |
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Big Bill writes:
What are you trying to say? That a life with no freedom may be worse than no life at all. Does thast mean you think the desire to live should only be within those who live a life you consider somehow good? No. Does this mean you think those who live poor lives either don't or shouldn't want to continue living? No. I await your explanation of your rather cryptic pronouncement. See above. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Big Bill writes:
You seem to have this rqather amusing habit of taking things to the extreme right away. I'm not very good at it or fond of it compared to most people. In any case, this example is not extreme. Considering the incident that the OP described, are you saying that you'd go to a fight to prevent your 'right' to be left alone in that situation? It depends on the circumstances. Just how far do you think you'd go to protect your rights? See above. Take another situation: let's say you catch someone taking pohotographs through your bedroom window; would you go to physical lengths to stop this person? I'd just cover the window. Doesn't he have a right to *not* be physically assaulted by you? Yes, he does. But there is no reason to assault him to begin with. See above. How about if your family were being assaulted, and you happened upon the scene? Would you call 911, then jump inot the fray to protect your family's rights. Or would you call 911, then step away, and let the government defend your rights? It depends on the circumstances. If I could intervene effectively, I would. Otherwise I would call for help. Tell me again about the amusing habit of carrying things to extremes. Do you not find scenarios of families being attacked a bit extreme in comparison to the incident described by the original poster? -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Big Bill writes: You seem to have this rqather amusing habit of taking things to the extreme right away. I'm not very good at it or fond of it compared to most people. In any case, this example is not extreme. Considering the incident that the OP described, are you saying that you'd go to a fight to prevent your 'right' to be left alone in that situation? It depends on the circumstances. Just how far do you think you'd go to protect your rights? See above. Take another situation: let's say you catch someone taking pohotographs through your bedroom window; would you go to physical lengths to stop this person? I'd just cover the window. Doesn't he have a right to *not* be physically assaulted by you? Yes, he does. But there is no reason to assault him to begin with. See above. How about if your family were being assaulted, and you happened upon the scene? Would you call 911, then jump inot the fray to protect your family's rights. Or would you call 911, then step away, and let the government defend your rights? It depends on the circumstances. If I could intervene effectively, I would. Otherwise I would call for help. Tell me again about the amusing habit of carrying things to extremes. Do you not find scenarios of families being attacked a bit extreme in comparison to the incident described by the original poster? You must have a great deal of patience and time, carrying on like this with a person who has his herky-jerky "Yes, but-" reflex (and not much else) switched on. |
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