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  #11  
Old December 22nd 16, 03:45 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 9:37:43 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 8:52:59 PM UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.

Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0



--

Regards,
Savageduck


Hi Duck,
That is a fantastic shot of a B-25. I clearly remember the Tokyo raid in 1942, which afforded little damage, but was a gigantic victory due to its psychological effect on both sides of the big pond.

Mort Linder


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Old December 22nd 16, 04:44 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 8:52:59 PM UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.

Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0



--

Regards,
Savageduck


Hi Duck,
That is a fantastic shot of a B-25. I clearly remember the Tokyo raid in
1942, which afforded little damage, but was a gigantic victory due to
its psychological effect on both sides of the big pond.

Mort Linder


Since you mentioned "Flying Tiger" I believe you were referring to the
P-40.

Here is a pair of those.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvvxf36fqjcak4q/DNC_5027-Edit.jpg?dl=0


--

Regards,
Savageduck
  #13  
Old December 22nd 16, 05:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:52:51 -0600, Savageduck
wrote:

wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.


Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0


Now that's a nice photo. Considerably better IQ than mine.
  #14  
Old December 22nd 16, 07:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 12/21/2016 9:37 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 8:52:59 PM UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.

Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0



--

Regards,
Savageduck


Hi Duck,
That is a fantastic shot of a B-25. I clearly remember the Tokyo raid in 1942, which afforded little damage, but was a gigantic victory due to its psychological effect on both sides of the big pond.

Mort Linder


The Tokyo raid had the additional effect of causing Japan to divert
resources from the front lines, to a more direct defense of the
homeland. I suspect that may have saved many lives, and shortened the war.

--
PeterN
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Old December 22nd 16, 10:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 20:14:30 -0800, Bill W
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:52:51 -0600, Savageduck
wrote:

wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.

Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0


Now that's a nice photo. Considerably better IQ than mine.


Over-sharpened though. I can see a sharpening halo around both
aircraft. :-(
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #16  
Old December 23rd 16, 12:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 10:44:40 PM UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 8:52:59 PM UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.

Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0



--

Regards,
Savageduck


Hi Duck,
That is a fantastic shot of a B-25. I clearly remember the Tokyo raid in
1942, which afforded little damage, but was a gigantic victory due to
its psychological effect on both sides of the big pond.

Mort Linder


Since you mentioned "Flying Tiger" I believe you were referring to the
P-40.

Here is a pair of those.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvvxf36fqjcak4q/DNC_5027-Edit.jpg?dl=0


--

Regards,
Savageduck


Great pair of P-40s. Thanks so much.

Mort Linder
  #17  
Old December 27th 16, 05:19 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 12/22/16 PDT 1:22 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 20:14:30 -0800, Bill W wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:52:51 -0600, Savageduck wrote:


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0


Now that's a nice photo. Considerably better IQ than mine.


Over-sharpened though. I can see a sharpening halo around both
aircraft. :-(

I would have guessed the aircraft was placed on a new background.... Duck?


  #18  
Old December 27th 16, 05:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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John McWilliams wrote:
On 12/22/16 PDT 1:22 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 20:14:30 -0800, Bill W wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:52:51 -0600, Savageduck wrote:


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0

Now that's a nice photo. Considerably better IQ than mine.


Over-sharpened though. I can see a sharpening halo around both
aircraft. :-(

I would have guessed the aircraft was placed on a new background.... Duck?




Nope!
Through our drought at that time of the year, and local airshows in 2010,
2011, 2012, & 2013 nary a cloud in the sky. Nothing but bright blue, and
sometimes hazy skies.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgmp3mqh6nabdil/DNC_4691.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qbi3ycv6rfz0z49/DNC_5064-Edit.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oeqzv0kv4gpkjud/DNC_5038-Edit.jpg?dl=0

....or a little closer to the ground where the haze is obvious.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3970d4jalpb6dg/DNC_4910B1w.jpg?dl=0


--

Regards,
Savageduck
  #19  
Old December 28th 16, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 12/27/2016 1:39 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/21/2016 9:37 PM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 8:52:59 PM UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:51:50 PM UTC-5, Bill W wrote:
I went to the Nellis AFB "aviation nation" show last month, and took
some photos. I know nothing about aircraft, military or not, but there
might be some interesting planes in these shots. I know a couple of
you are into aviation, so here they a

https://www.flickr.com/gp/48982192@N05/42w0W6

For once, I'm not really looking for comments on the photography,
although I'll listen if anyone has any. I still don't have a lens for
this stuff, and I might never have one, with Sigma & Tamron dropping
the Pentax mount for most of their lenses. They both have pretty
decent 150-600's now, but neither for Pentax.

Hi,

Nice pix. I especially enjoyed the Flying Tiger and the Mitchell B-25,
which brought back memories of W.W.II.

Mort Linder


Then you should enjoy this shot of the same B-25 I took a few years ago. I
have shared it, or a version of before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/38e4wep8gka4bj6/DNC_4900-E2.jpg?dl=0



--

Regards,
Savageduck

Hi Duck,
That is a fantastic shot of a B-25. I clearly remember the Tokyo raid in 1942, which afforded little damage, but was a gigantic victory due to its psychological effect on both sides of the big pond.

Mort Linder


The Tokyo raid had the additional effect of causing Japan to divert
resources from the front lines, to a more direct defense of the
homeland. I suspect that may have saved many lives, and shortened the war.


Saved lives, perhaps. But it didn't shorten the
war. You can argue that it was the atomic
bombing or the Russian declaration of war that
brought Japan to the point of surrender, but the
timing of either was pretty much independent of
anything that involved the Japanese military.


Based upon past history, the USSR would not have entered the war had we
not been on the point of invading Japan. If Japan had greater front line
capability, it would have taken us longer to get to that point. Whether
we would have dropped the bomb anyway, is speculative. Remember we only
had two of them.


--
PeterN
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Old December 28th 16, 03:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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PeterN wrote:

Snip


Based upon past history, the USSR would not have entered the war had we
not been on the point of invading Japan.


The war against Japan that is.

If Japan had greater front line
capability, it would have taken us longer to get to that point. Whether
we would have dropped the bomb anyway, is speculative. Remember we only
had two of them.


Only having two bombs in August 1945 was not quite true, and has become
part of the mythology of the end of the war. In actuality the 509th
Composite Group, the B-29 Group lead by Paul Tibbets only had two assembled
bombs on Tinian. However, there were additional spare assemblies on Tinian,
and the three unused assemblies, F101, F102, and F103 were shipped back to
Los Alamos in September 1945. All other components were dumped in the
mid-Pacific.

Those were not the only available bombs as the Group had 15 additional bomb
assemblies ready for shipment to the Pacific at Wendover Army Airfield,
Utah, and material for more at Hanford, by the time "Fat Man" and "Little
Boy" were dropped on Japan.

Bomb assembly was part of "Project Alberta" which started at Wendover in
March 1945. This was a sub-project of the Manhattan Project and was also
headed by General Leslie Groves. It also played a part in shipping the
bombs to Tinian, the assembly there, and the in-flight arming of the bombs
in the air on the way to the targets.


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Regards,
Savageduck
 




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