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I believe it is also true that any EF lens should work on any Canon EF
mount body including their 35mm and APS bodies.
Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used
during flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing
phases of the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on
digital equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg
room and so on) so I'm happy to use a film body.

I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take
pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take
pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the
door is open. No one has ever objected yet.


Hello again Neil.

I flew several years ago on a Dash 8-400 and was told not to use any
digital
equipment during the take-off and landing phases. More recently I flew on
an
A320 and was told not to use digital equipment at all.
In both cases the cabin crew took my requests courteously and seriously
and
checked with the captain.

On the Dash 8-400 we were not far away from landing at Birmingham when one
of the cabin crew confiscated a mobile phone from one of the passengers
who'd been trying to use it.

This may well be different in North America. It seems that whatever the
North American airlines permit to-day so the European airlines will permit
in a few years time.

Regards, Rog.

Rog, I knew about cell phones, because my sister -- who flies quite a lot,
including internationally -- had told me they couldn't be used during
takeoff or landing (or in flight either, if I understood her correctly). She
mentioned that often after landing, as soon as the seat belts light went out
you could hear cell phones snapping open all over the cabin. (*She* could
hear that I suppose, but I never did, probably because my hearing is very
poor.) I can understand prohibiting the use of cell phones. And I can
understand prohibiting the use of laptops too, since probably most of them
now in use have WiFi.

But I'd be surprised if "digital equipment" was taken to include cameras,
for this purpose, since as far as I know they don't generate any sort of
external RF. I never even thought to ask, just took out my little Coolpix
and snapped away through the window. On my last flight in fact, a short hop
in a small Embraer 145, I was seated within about a yard of the flight
attendant's station and in plain view of her when I was using the camera.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:02:41 GMT, "Dudley Hanks"
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In article , Neil
Harrington wrote:

Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used
during
flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases
of
the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital
equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room
and so
on) so I'm happy to use a film body.

I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take
pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take
pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the
door
is open. No one has ever objected yet.

all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but
some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have
a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in
checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out.

That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline flying
as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be using a
different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different.


During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly
concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter.

For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP IPAQ,
which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so I can't
use it during the flight.

But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying patiently,
or of scenic shots out the window.

You can't even properly frame nor see your dog that's laying right next to
your feet while sitting at a table in the mall. Even when you are using the
full-screen of a laptop as your viewfinder. Please explain to everyone how
you can compose (with intent) any scene out of a window?

Even more funny are your recent posts about photographing and driving cars.
I.e. Ford Exec says, "Let's humor the foolish blind man or we'll look bad
in PR. We'll just have a full safety-team stand by at thousands of dollars
of our cost so we don't look bad." Nothing like using your blindness to
manipulate all others to get what you want, eh? At everyone else's expense,
of course. Or using gels on flash units. As if that's ever going to help
with your compositions that you can't see nor focus on in the first place.

major eye-roll

Grow up, and ...

Ghett Rheel

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In article , Neil
Harrington wrote:

Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used
during
flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases
of
the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital
equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room
and so
on) so I'm happy to use a film body.

I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take
pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to take
pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when the
door
is open. No one has ever objected yet.

all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but
some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have
a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in
checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out.

That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline
flying as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be
using a different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different.


During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly
concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter.

Yes, that I can understand.


For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP
IPAQ, which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so I
can't use it during the flight.

But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying patiently,
or of scenic shots out the window.

But, during take-offs and landings, requests to turn off all electronics
still seem to be the norm.

I don't know if all airlines have adopted these practices, but I wouldn't
be surprised.

Take Care,
Dudley

I can't see how an ordinary digital camera could pose any sort of problem,
unless it were one of the very few that have WiFi built in. I wonder how
literally "all electronics" is taken. Surely they don't ban the use of
digital watches or hearing aids, for example.

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:02:41 GMT, "Dudley Hanks"
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Dudley, don't even bother answering this jerk. It's just our resident pest,
the dingleberry. He changes names several times a day, but you can always
recognize him by his dingleberry attitude.

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In article , Neil
Harrington wrote:

Rog, I knew about cell phones, because my sister -- who flies quite a
lot,
including internationally -- had told me they couldn't be used during
takeoff or landing (or in flight either, if I understood her correctly).
She
mentioned that often after landing, as soon as the seat belts light went
out
you could hear cell phones snapping open all over the cabin.

many airlines now allow cellphone use while taxiing to the gate after
landing.

(*She* could
hear that I suppose, but I never did, probably because my hearing is very
poor.) I can understand prohibiting the use of cell phones. And I can
understand prohibiting the use of laptops too, since probably most of
them
now in use have WiFi.

laptops are fine, especially with inflight wifi, however, voip apps are
banned. a couple of airlines have considered inflight cellphones using
a picocell on the plane.

Life just gets increasingly complicated, doesn't it? :-)

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In article 5CuHm.51192$PH1.1085@edtnps82, Dudley Hanks
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I don't know if all airlines have adopted these practices, but I wouldn't
be
surprised.

you aren't supposed to use electronics during takeoff or landing, but
during cruise it's fine. some airlines prohibit photography of airline
staff but allow pics out the window or of people you're traveling with.


what i find amusing is that since there is now inflight wifi internet
for a fee, wireless transmitters are suddenly safe.

Isn't that the way it generally works? In the early days of commercial air
travel, bringing food on board was probably taboo -- at least until they
found a way to charge for it, or to work it into the price of the ticket...

Take Care,
Dudley

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:02:41 GMT, "Dudley Hanks"
wrote:


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In article , Neil
Harrington wrote:

Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used
during
flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases
of
the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital
equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room
and so
on) so I'm happy to use a film body.

I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take
pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to
take
pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when
the
door
is open. No one has ever objected yet.

all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but
some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have
a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in
checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out.

That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline
flying
as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be using a
different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different.


During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly
concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter.

For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP
IPAQ,
which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so I can't
use it during the flight.

But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying patiently,
or of scenic shots out the window.

You can't even properly frame nor see your dog that's laying right next to
your feet while sitting at a table in the mall. Even when you are using
the
full-screen of a laptop as your viewfinder. Please explain to everyone how
you can compose (with intent) any scene out of a window?

Even more funny are your recent posts about photographing and driving
cars.
I.e. Ford Exec says, "Let's humor the foolish blind man or we'll look bad
in PR. We'll just have a full safety-team stand by at thousands of dollars
of our cost so we don't look bad." Nothing like using your blindness to
manipulate all others to get what you want, eh? At everyone else's
expense,
of course. Or using gels on flash units. As if that's ever going to help
with your compositions that you can't see nor focus on in the first place.

major eye-roll

Grow up, and ...

Ghett Rheel


Jealous?

You might be surprised at what is going to be posted on my site over the
next few months. Perhaps, once you realize that others can appreciate the
unusual and the unorthodox, you might get an inkling as to how limited is
your understanding of the human condition.

Perhaps one of your relatives told Hellen Keller she should just give up?

FYI, Ford's decision came after I provided company execs with detailed info
as to the demographics of my site visitors, and statistics about usage. I
provided a rather comprehensive summary of who visits my site, why they
visit it, and what they are looking for.

The interesting thing about the internet is that users are tired of the same
old, same old.

Why do you think traditional newspapers are dying? Television stations are
closing? And, why do you think that bazaar internet sites are flurishing?

If a web master can produce a product which connects to a definable
demographic, and if a more traditional company can use that connection to
highlight its products, its way of doing business and its corporate
philosophy, is it not good business for it to do exactly that?

Ford seems to think I'll make them more than I'll cost 'em.

Get Real, get with the times...

Take Care,
Dudley

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:02:41 GMT, "Dudley Hanks"
wrote:


Dudley, don't even bother answering this jerk. It's just our resident
pest, the dingleberry. He changes names several times a day, but you can
always recognize him by his dingleberry attitude.


Oh, it's alright. Get Real and I go back quite a ways, now.

I love him like a brother, and scrap with him almost as much...

The fact that he hasn't been able to stop my steady progress must really be
eating away at him, now, after about 2 years of wasted effort on his part.

Take Care,
Dudley

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In article , Neil
Harrington wrote:

Before you ask - not all airlines permit digital cameras to be used
during
flight and many prohibit them during the take-off and landing phases
of
the flight. I fly with an airline that has a total ban on digital
equipment. It's a good airline (usually on time, plenty of leg room
and so
on) so I'm happy to use a film body.

I never heard of such a ban. When I fly I always take a DSLR to take
pictures in the airport (I love airports) and a digital compact to
take
pictures out the airliner window, and sometimes of the cockpit when
the door
is open. No one has ever objected yet.

all airlines prohibit electronic devices during takeoff/landing, but
some go further than that. some airlines ban cd/dvd players (can't have
a laser!) or they require removable batteries to be removed and put in
checked luggage. so while it may be rare, i wouldn't rule it out.

That's interesting. Continental -- and the smaller regional airline
flying as Continental Express -- evidently couldn't care less. I'll be
using a different airline this winter, so maybe it will be different.


During most flights I've been on, lately, the flight crew is mainly
concerned with electronic devices which utilize a transmitter.

Yes, that I can understand.


For instance, my Trekker GPS device has the software running on an HP
IPAQ, which receives GPS info from a separate (bluetooth) GPS device, so
I can't use it during the flight.

But, I've had no objections to taking a few shots of Mich lying
patiently, or of scenic shots out the window.

But, during take-offs and landings, requests to turn off all electronics
still seem to be the norm.

I don't know if all airlines have adopted these practices, but I wouldn't
be surprised.

Take Care,
Dudley

I can't see how an ordinary digital camera could pose any sort of problem,
unless it were one of the very few that have WiFi built in. I wonder how
literally "all electronics" is taken. Surely they don't ban the use of
digital watches or hearing aids, for example.


As was pointed out in another post, some airlines are charging for wireless
connections, so it's just going to get muddier.

How many of you remember those signs that announced a restaurant had a
microwave on its premises? Back in those days, it was feared the radiation
from the microwave could kill somebody with a pacemaker who might be dining
on the far side of the building. Advances in technology have eliminated
that problem, and I'm sure the day will come when we'll all be telecommuting
and downloading with one hand and snapping digital pics with the other as we
land at whatever airport we happen to be arriving at.

The only thing certain is change...

Take Care,
Dudley

Dudley Hanks wrote:
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In article 5CuHm.51192$PH1.1085@edtnps82, Dudley Hanks

I don't know if all airlines have adopted these practices, but I wouldn't
be
surprised.

you aren't supposed to use electronics during takeoff or landing, but
during cruise it's fine. some airlines prohibit photography of airline
staff but allow pics out the window or of people you're traveling with.


what i find amusing is that since there is now inflight wifi internet
for a fee, wireless transmitters are suddenly safe.

Isn't that the way it generally works? In the early days of commercial air
travel, bringing food on board was probably taboo -- at least until they
found a way to charge for it, or to work it into the price of the ticket...

And now? Some discount airlines disallow bringing your own food and
require that you buy their (overpriced) food at the gate before
boarding.

--
Ray Fischer