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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
"Your Name" wrote
| The five year-olds are too busy explaining how to take photos on their | phone to older people. | | Not any more. Some busy-bodies stuck their noses in and now you have to | limit the amount of "screen time" kids have .. which pretty much | destroys the ideas of other busy-bodies who are trying to get "computer | coding" as a necessity in kindergartens and junior schools. | I'd like to think that's true, but there are an awfully lot of idiots who think the way to make kids intelligent is to give them anything digital. I recently came across one of those dawn-breaks-on-Marblehead studies where some bright bulbs concluded that iPads alone don't necessarily increase learning! And this week I came across a very dangerous looking phenomenon: https://xqsuperschool.org/ Their presentation is unreadable jargon about curing the old-fashioned design of schools. It seems to be connected to Bill Gates and his breathtakingly arrogant drive to not only get MS products into schools but also to tell educators how to teach. The fact that he knows nothing about it doesn't deter him. He thinks he's a genius who understands everything better than anyone else. It astonishes me that people might think a 5 year old should use a computer when they're still learning to use their senses and to relate to other people. It astonishes me that anyone could be so simple-minded as to just assume that more digital is more smart. I'd hate to be raising kids these days. They're not brilliant with computers. They're well trained by commercial interests to use commercial services through digital media. It's no different from kids a generation ago who never left the TV set. And parents then thought their kids were geniuses because they were so adept with the remote control. Now the kids shop, play idiotic games and follow celebrity Twitter accounts on digital devices their parents think it's STEM education. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
"Andre G. Isaak" wrote
| I downloaded the font in question. If you want to teach the kids how to | 'do the job right' this font is really not a good choice. The quality of | the outlines is horrible. Plus Mac OS already includes a well-designed | font specifically designed for signs (DIN), so why not just use that | instead? | The idea was to provide a legal, ready-made product, with an official font, that works with both Mac and Windows. What good is a font that's only on Macs? |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
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"Mayayana" wrote: "Andre G. Isaak" wrote | I downloaded the font in question. If you want to teach the kids how to | 'do the job right' this font is really not a good choice. The quality of | the outlines is horrible. Plus Mac OS already includes a well-designed | font specifically designed for signs (DIN), so why not just use that | instead? | The idea was to provide a legal, ready-made product, with an official font, that works with both Mac and Windows. What good is a font that's only on Macs? Most of the OPs questions have focussed on Macs, so I was answering with respect to Macs. DIN is available on both platforms, though I don't know if is included with Windows. but if there is no appropriate font included with both macOS and Windows and they need a free font, surely there are better options available than this one. There are numerous free sans serif fonts available through Google fonts which are much higher quality than Roadgeek. Andre -- To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail service. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On 2017-09-11 00:58:45 +0000, Mayayana said:
"Your Name" wrote There's nothing that is guranteed to be on every computer. HTML. And fonts can be embedded, base 64 encoded. There may be a size limit. I'm not sure about that. But you still need an app to be able to edit the HTML ... easily, so that rules out manually tweaking the underlying code in a text editor. There are no guaranteed apps that are capable of what is required by the person who posted the original questions. MS Office is certainly not guaranteed. Many people have MS Word, but typically it's only students and people who work in offices. Fewer have Powerpoint. I assumed it had to be Powerpoint. Why else would anyone use such a limited format with such limited support? But that's typical of people who use MS Office: They're usually people who think their computer *is* MS Office, so they assume *everyone* uses MS Office, so even if they just need to save a phone number in a text file they fire up MS Word and save it as a 100 KB DOC file. PowerPoint is often (incorrectly) used as a desktop publishing / page layout package, despite the fact that it's not actually designed to do that. The reason is because it seems much easier than using Word to do the same thing (really only because Word makes so many of it's supposed page layout features more difficult to find, but that's awful to use as well). |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On 2017-09-11 01:12:24 +0000, Mayayana said:
"Your Name" wrote The five year-olds are too busy explaining how to take photos on their phone to older people. Not any more. Some busy-bodies stuck their noses in and now you have to limit the amount of "screen time" kids have .. which pretty much destroys the ideas of other busy-bodies who are trying to get "computer coding" as a necessity in kindergartens and junior schools. I'd like to think that's true, but there are an awfully lot of idiots who think the way to make kids intelligent is to give them anything digital. I recently came across one of those dawn-breaks-on-Marblehead studies where some bright bulbs concluded that iPads alone don't necessarily increase learning! And this week I came across a very dangerous looking phenomenon: https://xqsuperschool.org/ Their presentation is unreadable jargon about curing the old-fashioned design of schools. It seems to be connected to Bill Gates and his breathtakingly arrogant drive to not only get MS products into schools but also to tell educators how to teach. The fact that he knows nothing about it doesn't deter him. He thinks he's a genius who understands everything better than anyone else. It astonishes me that people might think a 5 year old should use a computer when they're still learning to use their senses and to relate to other people. It astonishes me that anyone could be so simple-minded as to just assume that more digital is more smart. I'd hate to be raising kids these days. They're not brilliant with computers. They're well trained by commercial interests to use commercial services through digital media. It's no different from kids a generation ago who never left the TV set. And parents then thought their kids were geniuses because they were so adept with the remote control. Now the kids shop, play idiotic games and follow celebrity Twitter accounts on digital devices their parents think it's STEM education. Over the last few years schools here in New Zealand have been pushing parents into buying their kids laptops or tablets to use at school - not just senior / high school kids, but primary / junior schools kids as young as 6. If schools think these things are a necessity (which they definitely are not), then the schools should be supplying them for the kids to use. Not forcing parents into buying them. It's just the usual blinkered "we must use technology". The problem is that few teachers or schools actually know what to do with such devices as a teaching tool. Then there's the current silliness of wanting to teach little kids computer coding. They've already got too many trained people leaving university not able to find jobs, and complaingin there aren't enough ditch diggers. :-\ It's just another of the ridiculous stupidities in the eduction system these days. In last week's newspaper they were complaining about kids becoming worse at the basics of reading, writing, mathematics ... it's these basic skills, taught properly and normally, that schools should be teaching, and teaching properly. Not playing around about on a laptop / tablet, not playing silly sports, and not sticking their noses into what kids have in their lunchboxes. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in customroad signs in PowerPoint
On 2017-09-11, Mayayana wrote:
"Your Name" wrote There's nothing that is guranteed to be on every computer. HTML. And fonts can be embedded, base 64 encoded. There may be a size limit. I'm not sure about that. Assuming a modern browser, yep. I assumed it had to be Powerpoint. Why else would anyone use such a limited format with such limited support? For page layout? Neophytes. The troll who asked this question is a clear example of one. But that's typical of people who use MS Office: They're usually people who think their computer *is* MS Office, so they assume *everyone* uses MS Office, so even if they just need to save a phone number in a text file they fire up MS Word and save it as a 100 KB DOC file. Or to send you a photo (which Word automatically degrades the quality of upon import/export). That's always lovely... : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in customroad signs in PowerPoint
On 2017-09-11, Your Name wrote:
On 2017-09-11 00:58:45 +0000, Mayayana said: "Your Name" wrote There's nothing that is guranteed to be on every computer. HTML. And fonts can be embedded, base 64 encoded. There may be a size limit. I'm not sure about that. But you still need an app to be able to edit the HTML Any plain text editor will do that just fine. ... easily, so that rules out manually tweaking the underlying code in a text editor. Nope. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:58:45 -0400, Mayayana
wrote: HTML. And fonts can be embedded, base 64 encoded. There may be a size limit. I'm not sure about that. MS Office is certainly not guaranteed. Many people have MS Word, but typically it's only students and people who work in offices. Fewer have Powerpoint. I assumed it had to be Powerpoint. Why else would anyone use such a limited format with such limited support? But that's typical of people who use MS Office: They're usually people who think their computer *is* MS Office, so they assume *everyone* uses MS Office, so even if they just need to save a phone number in a text file they fire up MS Word and save it as a 100 KB DOC file. Mayayana brings up good points, where Mayayana says PPT isn't always there, and I can't disagree other than to say that I have personally never seen a PC that had MS Office that didn't have the main suite (word, ppt, & excel at the very least). Do machines exist that don't have MS Office? Sure. Do machines with MS Office exist that don't have PPT? Probably. But we have to pick SOMETHING. If not MS Office PowerPoint, what? Mayayana says it could be Word that we choose but Word is, IMHO, far harder to use than PPT for something as simple as a sign, due to the text-box and anchor bother, page wrap, and margin formatting hell (among other Word-specific hells). Powerpoint is designed to be a set of single page slides, which fits a set of signs perfectly. If not PowerPoint, then what do you suggest that is already on everyone's computer and which they know well and which can edit the slides as needed? I'm all ears if you have a better idea. The draft is due tomorrow. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:57:09 +1200, Your Name wrote:
There are no guaranteed apps that are capable of what is required by the person who posted the original questions. You all bring up good points but you have to PICK SOMETHING so if it's not MS Office, what is it that is editable that is also WYSIWYG on both Mac and PC that everyone already has and knows how to use? If not MS Office, then what? |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
"Your Name" wrote
| HTML. And fonts can be embedded, base 64 encoded. | There may be a size limit. I'm not sure about that. | | But you still need an app to be able to edit the HTML ... easily, so | that rules out manually tweaking the underlying code in a text editor. | All that's required is a text editor. HTML and CSS are plain text. But it does require that the author know HTML well enough to get the layout they want. And all the reecipients are guaranteed to be able to load and read an HTML file. Images can also be embedded as base 64. HTML is by far the most adaptable format for graphical pages that need to display on any system. If the author is not experienced with HTML there are plenty of free "wysiwyg" HTML editors. But it does require some experience to get the page design to behave. |
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