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Old August 30th 05, 11:47 AM
Walter Mitty
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Arthur Small wrote:
If the shadow was at the top, I would say it is due to the lens shade. I do
not have any such problem with this lens on my D70.

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I have determined its the built in flash between 12-18 mm.

Can you confirm that this does not happen to you?
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Old August 30th 05, 12:10 PM
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Walter Mitty wrote:

Walter Mitty wrote:
Is this lens incompatible with the built in flash? I keep getting a
shadowy half moon at the bottom of the picture.


Thanks to all.

It is the wide angle setting picking up the lens obstructing the flash.

As a newbie it never entered my mind to check built in flash
compatability : a lesson now well learnt. I'm also very surprised not to
have seen this mentioned din online Tokina reviews.

Will a Speedlight 800 be ok, since its considerably higher when shoed in?


An SB-800 would get rid of the shadow in the frame. As would an SB-600 or
just about any compatible external flash.

RAS
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Old August 30th 05, 02:48 PM
Walter Mitty
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Ronnie Sellar wrote:

An SB-800 would get rid of the shadow in the frame. As would an SB-600 or
just about any compatible external flash.

RAS


Since I have more money than sense today it's an SB800 then Thanks again.
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Old August 30th 05, 03:25 PM
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Walter Mitty wrote:

Ronnie Sellar wrote:

An SB-800 would get rid of the shadow in the frame. As would an SB-600
or just about any compatible external flash.

RAS


Since I have more money than sense today it's an SB800 then Thanks
again.


You're welcome. I have an SB800 and I don't think you'll regret buying one.

Have fun !

RAS
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Old August 30th 05, 05:03 PM
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Walter Mitty writes:

Is this lens incompatible with the built in flash? I keep getting a
shadowy half moon at the bottom of the picture.


Probably. It certainly is with the hood on with my Fuji S2, and the
builtin flash on that is in a very similar position to the one on the
D70.

The builtin flash probably doesn't cover a wide enough field for a
lens that wide anyway, though.
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Old August 31st 05, 05:01 AM
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Walter Mitty wrote:

Walter Mitty wrote:
Is this lens incompatible with the built in flash? I keep getting a
shadowy half moon at the bottom of the picture.


Thanks to all.

It is the wide angle setting picking up the lens obstructing the flash.


Yes, even the Nikon D70 kit lens has that problem at the wide angle
setting. Removing the lens shade will help.

Merritt
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Old August 31st 05, 05:04 AM
Merritt Mullen
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In article ,
Walter Mitty wrote:

Ronnie Sellar wrote:
Walter Mitty wrote:


Ronnie Sellar wrote:

Walter Mitty wrote:



Walter Mitty wrote:


Is this lens incompatible with the built in flash? I keep getting a
shadowy half moon at the bottom of the picture.

Additionally, having played around : this dark area only occurs with
the lens between 12 & 18 mm and only with flash. So not the lens
obstructing the light since then I'd get the dark area with the lens
fully extended at 24 mm?


Well the angle of view is wider at 12mm so more likely to include the
area
in the lens' shadow. The 24mm view may not be wide enough to see the
shadow. The other problem is the D70 built in flash doesn't cover the
whole frame with a 12mm lens. Can't remember off hand what the limit is
but its not 12mm.



I stayed in the same position photographing the same object. If it was a
"shadow" wouldn't it be in same location in the real world?



Possibly, but by using the zoom and not moving you are changing the angle of
view i.e. how much of the scene is included. Obviously from 12-18mm this
view includes the lens' shadow and from 18-24mm it does not. The lens is
obstructing the flash. I think the manual warns you about this but of
course only lists Nikkors that are affected.

RAS



Thanks for your comments. It certainly is the lens obstructing the flash
and only getting picked up at wider angles (12-18)

I'm really ****ed off about this : there were no warnings in any reviews
- it makes this lens USELESS for indoor flash photography. Grrr, 450
Euro down the toilet.


No, no. The problem is only with the built-in pop-up flash, which is too
close to the body of the camera at wide angle shots. Buy a separate flash
gun, like the Nikon SB600 or 800, and you will be OK with that lens.

Merritt
 




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