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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On 2020-10-09 11:06, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all.Â* It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, WTF? a petty practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Wikipedia is fantastic, but cherry picking data from it is not wise. -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:06:43 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all. It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Patents *have* to include suggestions as to allegedly practical applications. But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications. Wikipedia is fantastic, but cherry picking data from it is not wise. It's called quoting. Without that I have to publish the full extent of human knowledge. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On 2020-10-09 19:14, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:06:43 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all. It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an [1] ----- application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a [2] ------ problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Patents *have* to include suggestions as to allegedly practical applications. But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications. That's a self contradicting paragraph. a) Your point ([1] above) was to quote the notion of a solution looking for a problem. b) Then you referred to a quip in 1960. [2] c) When the patent applicant was suggesting practical applications in 1959. [3] Wikipedia is fantastic, but cherry picking data from it is not wise. It's called quoting. Without that I have to publish the full extent of human knowledge. No. It was all available in the same Wikipedia article. [3] -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 21:03:16 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: On 2020-10-09 19:14, Eric Stevens wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:06:43 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all. It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an [1] ----- application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a [2] ------ problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Patents *have* to include suggestions as to allegedly practical applications. But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications. That's a self contradicting paragraph. a) Your point ([1] above) was to quote the notion of a solution looking for a problem. With your desire to argue, you are getting as bad as nospam. I explained my point for you when I wrote "But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications." b) Then you referred to a quip in 1960. [2] c) When the patent applicant was suggesting practical applications in 1959. [3] Wikipedia is fantastic, but cherry picking data from it is not wise. It's called quoting. Without that I have to publish the full extent of human knowledge. No. It was all available in the same Wikipedia article. [3] -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On 2020-10-10 19:53, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 21:03:16 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-09 19:14, Eric Stevens wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:06:43 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all. It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an [1] ----- application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a [2] ------ problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Patents *have* to include suggestions as to allegedly practical applications. But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications. That's a self contradicting paragraph. a) Your point ([1] above) was to quote the notion of a solution looking for a problem. With your desire to argue, you are getting as bad as nospam. I explained my point for you when I wrote "But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications." Oh, it takes time to get from a proposed application to the actual deal. Wow! What a discovery! -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:10:44 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: On 2020-10-10 19:53, Eric Stevens wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 21:03:16 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-09 19:14, Eric Stevens wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:06:43 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all. It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an [1] ----- application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a [2] ------ problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Patents *have* to include suggestions as to allegedly practical applications. But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications. That's a self contradicting paragraph. a) Your point ([1] above) was to quote the notion of a solution looking for a problem. With your desire to argue, you are getting as bad as nospam. I explained my point for you when I wrote "But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications." Oh, it takes time to get from a proposed application to the actual deal. Wow! What a discovery! Well its taken you long enough. Especially when you consider that was my original point. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Let me guess; 20 years for a sensor to appear from this?
On 2020-10-11 19:21, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:10:44 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-10 19:53, Eric Stevens wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 21:03:16 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-09 19:14, Eric Stevens wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:06:43 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-08 20:10, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:43:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 22:15, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 19:39:32 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: On 2020-10-05 18:58, RichA wrote: https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsroo...photodetector/ Or none at all. It's a long way from the lab to a commercially viable product. Do you remember when lasers were 'an invention looking for an [1] ----- application'? The earliest patent applications note various potential uses so you'll need a different analogy. It's not an analogy. Its a quote. I quoted from memory but according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser "When lasers were invented in 1960, they were called "a solution looking for a [2] ------ problem".[75]". Quoting an patty or ignorance position from 1960 when, in 1959, practical uses for lasers had already been proposed amidst patent applications, doesn't fly very much. Patents *have* to include suggestions as to allegedly practical applications. But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications. That's a self contradicting paragraph. a) Your point ([1] above) was to quote the notion of a solution looking for a problem. With your desire to argue, you are getting as bad as nospam. I explained my point for you when I wrote "But my point was not how long it took to produce suggested practical applications but how long it took to get *actual* practical applications." Oh, it takes time to get from a proposed application to the actual deal. Wow! What a discovery! Well its taken you long enough. Especially when you consider that was my original point. Whoooooooooooooosh ... -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
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