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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
In article , Rikishi42
wrote: You simply can't plan on far-in-the-future scenarios. Yes, some programs will be discontinued and not supported in the future, but the new programs developed will be able to convert. Sorry, don't quiet agree. That would only be the case if the company responsible for the first Assetmanager would then make the next one. Not likely. Or, that company would need to use an open standard for it's asset data. Very, very, very unlikely. nope. Besides, the data are not in the files. Meaning that if you move the files from one system to another, whatever metadata was stored "somewhere" (never clear) in the original system, it will just not follow. also wrong. That - in my opninion - is the very reason to have Exif data IN the file. You can allways get it out again. But that sort of portable standards are very unwelcome in certain companies, because it leaves the user free to migrate from one system to another freely. more nonsense. there is an advantage to having the info in the image itself, but the disadvantage is that if something goes wrong while updating the info, you can lose the image. that's why there are sidecar files. the original images should be considered to be read-only. *never* alter them under any circumstances. the way it works now is drag the folder of images (which includes the sidecars) and the metadata goes with it. there is no issue with losing anything. PS to the OP: my sister had a very big pile-up of unsorted pictures. She too wanted to rename her files, using the date to regroup pictures from the same event. So I looked around, found a Python script that would extract Exif data, and made a little tool that moves a given file into a dated subdir, adding date and time before the original file name. Several thousands of files sorted in a few secs. On a very slow machine with an Atom CPU. If you use Linux, you can have mine. For Windows, I could adapt the tool. For Mac... that would be blasphemy, so I'll avoid it. in true linux fashion, make it as convoluted and complex as possible. drag to asset manager. done. no searching or rewriting scripts. you're also being *very* disingenuous about it only taking 'a few secs'. it took *much* longer than that, including time it took you to search for the script and then get it working on your system. not only that but the your sister had to ask you to help, which is more time you're not accounting for. you're also assuming python is installed which it might not be. another thing your 'solution' can't do is change the sort criteria. in an asset manager, it's a click or two to sort by whatever you want, whether it's date, size, rating or whatever else. to do that in your world, you'd have to edit and rerun your script *each time*, renaming every single image. that's crazy. |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: PS to the OP: my sister had a very big pile-up of unsorted pictures. There are many instances where choosing rename an image file is something the user wants to do. This thread got bogged down over the need to do it in Lightroom, but that's only because we have a Lightroom acolyte in the group who can't envision anyone not using Lightroom and not using it his way. more of your lies and twists. i have no problem with someone not using lightroom. i don't care what people use. the issue i have is when people are not interested in learning new and better ways of doing things. you can live in a cave if you want, but don't deny others from learning. The ironic thing about the way the thread developed on the Lightroom issue is that Adobe created a program with a lot of user options so the user could tailor the file management to the user's interests and desires - including the ability to easily rename files - but the thrust of the argument from a couple of people is that the user should not use the features Adobe included and should not do it the way the user wants to do it. you still don't get it and likely never will. |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: The ironic thing about the way the thread developed on the Lightroom issue is that Adobe created a program with a lot of user options so the user could tailor the file management to the user's interests and desires - including the ability to easily rename files - but the thrust of the argument from a couple of people is that the user should not use the features Adobe included and should not do it the way the user wants to do it. you still don't get it and likely never will. Oh, I "get it". You don't want anyone doing anything in Lightroom that you don't approve of even though they feel it works for them. you definitely don't get it. |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
On 2015-08-03, Tony Cooper wrote:
Try to be a little more careful in your attributions, please. The paragraph you are responding to is not mine. My contribution in what you have quoted is a support of the choice to rename files. Sorry about that, misread the quoting contexts. the EXIF data if it's there. It will, in fact, pull from the EXIF data and number the files using the date the photo was taken if the user does not want to specify the number. The OP later emailed me directly about this program, so I assume he's using it. Good, at least someone helpt out. -- When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote:
isw: Well, there is, and it's a big one. What do you do, some years from now, when you have even more photos than now, all carefully organized with AssetManager, and for whatever reason, that program becomes no longer available for any platform you then use? All your "organization" is out the window, is what. While, if you had named the files in some rational (to you) way, any viable OS that could store them could easily display them in the way you set up. Andreas Skitsnack: While I support the desire to rename files, the above reason is - in my opinion - bogus. You simply can't plan on far-in-the-future scenarios. Yes, some programs will be discontinued and not supported in the future, but the new programs developed will be able to convert. Rikishi42: Sorry, don't quiet agree. That would only be the case if the company responsible for the first Assetmanagerwould then make the next one. Not likely. Or, that company would need to use an open standard for it's asset data. Very, very, very unlikely. Try to be a little more careful in your attributions, please. The paragraph you are responding to is not mine. My contribution in what you have quoted is a support of the choice to rename files. Huh? What do you mean? He's responding to this post: Which is a post from you, no? And which contains the paragraphs seen above, right? -- Sandman |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote:
nospam: In article , Tony Cooper Rikishi42: PS to the OP: my sister had a very big pile-up of unsorted pictures. Andreas Skitsnack: There are many instances where choosing rename an image file is something the user wants to do. This thread got bogged down over the need to do it in Lightroom, but that's only because we have a Lightroom acolyte in the group who can't envision anyone not using Lightroom and not using it his way. nospam: more of your lies and twists. i have no problem with someone not using lightroom. i don't care what people use. the issue i have is when people are not interested in learning new and better ways of doing things. you can live in a cave if you want, but don't deny others from learning. Andreas Skitsnack: The ironic thing about the way the thread developed on the Lightroom issue is that Adobe created a program with a lot of user options so the user could tailor the file management to the user's interests and desires - including the ability to easily rename files - but the thrust of the argument from a couple of people is that the user should not use the features Adobe included and should not do it the way the user wants to do it. nospam: you still don't get it and likely never will. Oh, I "get it". You don't want anyone doing anything in Lightroom that you don't approve of even though they feel it works for them. In reality, one LR user has said "I perform X to achieve Y" and some here have responded and pointed out that "X is not necessary to achieve Y". -- Sandman |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
On 08/09/2015 02:45 PM, Jack Ryan wrote:
In article nospam wrote: In article .at, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: snip let me guess. you use linux. Wrong again, LOL! I am not your straw man; it looks like you just can't deal with someone who does things differently. linux users *love* to do things in the most convoluted way possible and make excuses that their way is the best because there is no other option due to the sheer lack of quality software. they *have* to do things manually. Go tell it to a Linux user. What a rigid mind it seems you have. The rest of nospam's repetitious nonsense is snipped I use Linux; I am a relatively recent convert. I use Linux because: a) I used to use WinXP, which has reached end of life. b) while WinXP did what I needed, my hardware is older and under-powered, and WinXP was taxing it c) After a bit off searching (maybe a couple days), I found a Linux distro- Lubuntu- that runs great on older, less-powerful hardware, and, looks and feels just like WinXP. I have had to resort to command line a few times, but most of the time, I use a GUI. The command line is not entirely unfamiliar; I've been using computers since the days of MSDOS and PCDOS, and before Win3.0. -- Ken Hart |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
nospam wrote:
I don't have an "asset manager," I don't need an "asset manager." then you're doing things the hard way and missing out on all sorts of functionality that's not possible any other way. let me guess. you use linux. linux users *love* to do things in the most convoluted way possible and make excuses that their way is the best because there is no other option due to the sheer lack of quality software. they *have* to do things manually. Nospam never makes inflammatory comments about other peoples operating systems -- sid |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
In article , sid
wrote: I don't have an "asset manager," I don't need an "asset manager." then you're doing things the hard way and missing out on all sorts of functionality that's not possible any other way. let me guess. you use linux. linux users *love* to do things in the most convoluted way possible and make excuses that their way is the best because there is no other option due to the sheer lack of quality software. they *have* to do things manually. Nospam never makes inflammatory comments about other peoples operating systems you snipped *his* inflammatory comments, where he bashed me first. my comments were a *response*. and what i wrote is of course, exactly true. linux users do like doing things the hard way and refuse to consider simplifying things. they also have more limited options because it's a niche platform. it's just how it is. |
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Photo file rename by to date and time taken
On 2015-08-10 19:39:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 20:13:11 +0100, sid wrote: nospam wrote: I don't have an "asset manager," I don't need an "asset manager." then you're doing things the hard way and missing out on all sorts of functionality that's not possible any other way. let me guess. you use linux. linux users *love* to do things in the most convoluted way possible and make excuses that their way is the best because there is no other option due to the sheer lack of quality software. they *have* to do things manually. Nospam never makes inflammatory comments about other peoples operating systems You noticing, Duck? Is it Windows or Linux users who start all the arguments? The bashing? I recognize the veiled sarcasm of sid's comment. Let's take this thread for example. The OP was Eric, a non-Mac user, who frequently regurgitates articles from "The Register". One wonders why. His motives might be altruistic and intended to benefit to the Mac users here, and one hopes that is so. However, this has happened too many times to believe that it is anything less than a provocative poke at Apple, perhaps even a "bash", knowing full well that at least nospam will bite. ....and "bashing" is certainly a nospamism. From there the mud slinging through the Usenet ether is inevitable. nospam's pants are on fire. That depends on the way the thread has developed. In this case Eric dropped the baited hook, along with some fragrant chum in the water. Both nospam and yours truly took that bait. None of us are blameless in escalating some flame wars here, I can think of your interactions with Jonas for example. Neither one of you will step away from the sophomoric exchanges. He also has a special degraded Usenet interaction with sid and whisky Dave. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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