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Nikon D750 - Report from a fanboi



 
 
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  #21  
Old March 8th 15, 09:33 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
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A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.


not all of them, it can't.
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Old March 8th 15, 09:33 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 03:33:43 -0500, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.


not all of them, it can't.


I wasn't aware of that.

https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13580/~/d70-2.0-firmware-update

I wasn't of any limitation on the ability to load the D70s firmware
into the D70. Which ones couldn't do it?
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Old March 8th 15, 09:40 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon D750 - Report from a fanboi

In article ,
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In article , android
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A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.


But... There would be hardware differences. Like the s on the body!


more than just the s


sure... giant lcd!!!
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Old March 8th 15, 10:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon D750 - Report from a fanboi

In article , android
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A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.


But... There would be hardware differences. Like the s on the body!


more than just the s
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Old March 8th 15, 10:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-03-08 07:23:34 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 04:59:06 +0100, android wrote:

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:

As I've written befo I think that the D750 is the true successor to
the D300s. What's your take?

In my case, it's the successor to the D300, which in turn was the
successor to the D70.

it may have been what you bought after owning a d70 but that doesn't
make it a successor.

the d300 was *not* a successor of the d70. it was the successor of the
d200 which was the successor of the d100.

the d70 was a consumer slr, which was succeeded by the d80, d90 and
then the d5000 series.

While there was a very noticable jump from the
D70 to the D300 there seems to be an even bigger jump from the D300 to
the D750.

that's because the d70 and d300 different product tiers and the d300
and d750 are not only different product tiers but also dx/fx.

There is a marked improvement in dynamic range which gives rise to
improved low light shooting at even moderate ISOs.

no ****. the sensor in the d300 is much better than what was in the
d70, plus it didn't have the electronic shutter that hobbled the d70.


It ain't the camera.

this discussion is.

As I have posted before, my daughter has sold her
images, taken with a D70 and a kit lens, for over $700. She has been
offered one per shows, but turned them down.

what your daughter has sold has absolutely nothing to do with the
sensor, it's resolution and dynamic range or how nikon classifies the
various models.

Uhm!
She still uses it, and her images are still selling.

still missing the point.

ten years ago, a lot of people sold photos from a d70. it was a very
good camera in its day, but those days are *long* gone. even a lowly
d3200 blows it away.

It's still the photographer, not the camera.

it's a bit of both.


Sure, but the dame should probably treat herself and get a new camera,
Unless she finds some esoteric qualities in the D70... If the latter is
the case then she aught to get a case of used ones to replace it with
then it fails... A D70s?


A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.


Yup! Just one firmware update separates them.

otherwise top photographers would use cellphone cameras.



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Old March 8th 15, 10:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon D750 - Report from a fanboi

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.


not all of them, it can't.


I wasn't aware of that.


https://support.nikonusa.com/app/ans...-2.0-firmware-
update

I wasn't of any limitation on the ability to load the D70s firmware
into the D70. Which ones couldn't do it?


you read that wrong (again).

a d70 can be updated to *some* of the d70s specs, not all. the hardware
differences cannot be updated via firmware.
  #27  
Old March 8th 15, 07:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 3/7/2015 9:16 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

As I've written befo I think that the D750 is the true successor to
the D300s. What's your take?

In my case, it's the successor to the D300, which in turn was the
successor to the D70.

it may have been what you bought after owning a d70 but that doesn't
make it a successor.

the d300 was *not* a successor of the d70. it was the successor of the
d200 which was the successor of the d100.

the d70 was a consumer slr, which was succeeded by the d80, d90 and
then the d5000 series.

While there was a very noticable jump from the
D70 to the D300 there seems to be an even bigger jump from the D300 to
the D750.

that's because the d70 and d300 different product tiers and the d300
and d750 are not only different product tiers but also dx/fx.

There is a marked improvement in dynamic range which gives rise to
improved low light shooting at even moderate ISOs.

no ****. the sensor in the d300 is much better than what was in the
d70, plus it didn't have the electronic shutter that hobbled the d70.


It ain't the camera.

this discussion is.

As I have posted before, my daughter has sold her
images, taken with a D70 and a kit lens, for over $700. She has been
offered one per shows, but turned them down.

what your daughter has sold has absolutely nothing to do with the
sensor, it's resolution and dynamic range or how nikon classifies the
various models.

Uhm!
She still uses it, and her images are still selling.


still missing the point.

ten years ago, a lot of people sold photos from a d70. it was a very
good camera in its day, but those days are *long* gone. even a lowly
d3200 blows it away.

It's still the photographer, not the camera.


it's a bit of both.

There is no question hat a better photographer will take better images
with a lessr camera, than a lessor phtographer will, with a ,ore
expensive camera.


otherwise top photographers would use cellphone cameras.

http://tonysweet.com/category/iphone/

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PeterN
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Old March 8th 15, 09:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon D750 - Report from a fanboi

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 04:52:02 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

A D70 can be updated to D70s specs.

not all of them, it can't.


I wasn't aware of that.


https://support.nikonusa.com/app/ans...-2.0-firmware-
update

I wasn't of any limitation on the ability to load the D70s firmware
into the D70. Which ones couldn't do it?


you read that wrong (again).


I read what you wrote. You didn't write quite what you meant.

a d70 can be updated to *some* of the d70s specs, not all. the hardware
differences cannot be updated via firmware.


I had to take my modem apart before I could get the larger rear screen
through it.
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  #29  
Old March 8th 15, 10:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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PeterN wrote:
On 3/7/2015 9:16 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

As I've written befo I think that the D750 is the true successor to
the D300s. What's your take?

In my case, it's the successor to the D300, which in turn was the
successor to the D70.

it may have been what you bought after owning a d70 but that doesn't
make it a successor.

the d300 was *not* a successor of the d70. it was the successor of the
d200 which was the successor of the d100.

the d70 was a consumer slr, which was succeeded by the d80, d90 and
then the d5000 series.

While there was a very noticable jump from the
D70 to the D300 there seems to be an even bigger jump from the D300 to
the D750.

that's because the d70 and d300 different product tiers and the d300
and d750 are not only different product tiers but also dx/fx.

There is a marked improvement in dynamic range which gives rise to
improved low light shooting at even moderate ISOs.

no ****. the sensor in the d300 is much better than what was in the
d70, plus it didn't have the electronic shutter that hobbled the d70.


It ain't the camera.

this discussion is.

As I have posted before, my daughter has sold her
images, taken with a D70 and a kit lens, for over $700. She has been
offered one per shows, but turned them down.

what your daughter has sold has absolutely nothing to do with the
sensor, it's resolution and dynamic range or how nikon classifies the
various models.

Uhm!
She still uses it, and her images are still selling.


still missing the point.

ten years ago, a lot of people sold photos from a d70. it was a very
good camera in its day, but those days are *long* gone. even a lowly
d3200 blows it away.

It's still the photographer, not the camera.


it's a bit of both.

There is no question hat a better photographer will take
better images with a lessr camera, than a lessor
phtographer will, with a ,ore expensive camera.


Only if the quality is judged as an average of all
pictures.

On a one by one basis, either photographer will get
better images with a better camera, just that the better
photographer will get a higher percentage of better
pictues.

otherwise top photographers would use cellphone cameras.

http://tonysweet.com/category/iphone/

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  #30  
Old March 8th 15, 11:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Nikon D750 - Report from a fanboi

In article , PeterN
wrote:

While there was a very noticable jump from the
D70 to the D300 there seems to be an even bigger jump from the D300 to
the D750.

that's because the d70 and d300 different product tiers and the d300
and d750 are not only different product tiers but also dx/fx.

There is a marked improvement in dynamic range which gives rise to
improved low light shooting at even moderate ISOs.

no ****. the sensor in the d300 is much better than what was in the
d70, plus it didn't have the electronic shutter that hobbled the d70.


It ain't the camera.

this discussion is.

As I have posted before, my daughter has sold her
images, taken with a D70 and a kit lens, for over $700. She has been
offered one per shows, but turned them down.

what your daughter has sold has absolutely nothing to do with the
sensor, it's resolution and dynamic range or how nikon classifies the
various models.

Uhm!
She still uses it, and her images are still selling.


still missing the point.

ten years ago, a lot of people sold photos from a d70. it was a very
good camera in its day, but those days are *long* gone. even a lowly
d3200 blows it away.

It's still the photographer, not the camera.


it's a bit of both.

There is no question hat a better photographer will take better images
with a lessr camera, than a lessor phtographer will, with a ,ore
expensive camera.


not always.

better cameras make things much easier in non-ideal conditions.

give an iphone to a better photographer and a d4s with a telephoto lens
to a lesser photographer and have them shoot hockey or soccer. guess
who is going to get the better photos.

give two photographers of equal skill a d750 and d70 and have them
shoot in low light or fast moving subjects. guess who is going to get
better photos.

give two photographers of equal skill a non-stabilized lens and a
stabilized lens and have them take handheld photos. guess who is going
to get more keepers.

otherwise top photographers would use cellphone cameras.

http://tonysweet.com/category/iphone/


so what?

will you be selling your d800?
 




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