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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
Konost is going to release a full frame digital rangefinder camera in 2016
http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The World’s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ -- Sandman |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
On 2015-02-26, Sandman wrote:
Konost is going to release a full frame digital rangefinder camera in 2016 http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The WorldÂ’s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ Certainly interesting. Any camera that returns the controls to the fundamental basics is to be encouraged. Not clear whether or not there is a mechanical link between the camera's focusing electronics and the focusing mechanism of the lens; if there is, then the cost of making and calibrating the system may not be significantly less than Leica's wholly optical/mechanical rangefinder. If the connection is electronic, then lens interchangeability with existing rangefinder lenses will be limited. The immediate competition for this project may be the likes of the Fujifilm X100T rather than the Leica M series. -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
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Whiskers wrote: http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The World?s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ Certainly interesting. Any camera that returns the controls to the fundamental basics is to be encouraged. if you mean putting the aperture ring on the lens and shutter knob on top, that's to be *discouraged*. those were the most unergonomic places to put them and was only required because mechanical cameras had little choice where controls could go. they *had* to go there. thankfully, digital removes that limitation and now the controls can go wherever they make the most sense, which is a control wheel under the photographer's fingers. it also adds significant functionality not possible with the old style methods. worse, the above camera is manual focus, manual aperture and manual shutter speed. this is 2015, not 1965. the camera will fail. |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
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Sandman says... Konost is going to release a full frame digital rangefinder camera in 2016 http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The World?s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ Wha can't they add autofocus? Either contrast based or on-sensor phase AF. Rangefinder is a thing of the past, when autofocus wasn't possible in a non-SLR camera. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
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Molon wrote: Wha can't they add autofocus? Either contrast based or on-sensor phase AF. Rangefinder is a thing of the past, when autofocus wasn't possible in a non-SLR camera. because they're under the delusion that cameras should be how they were 50 years ago, ignoring all of the advancements since then. that's why it's manual everything. really stupid. |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
On 2015-02-26 18:41:50 +0000, nospam said:
In article , Whiskers wrote: http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The World?s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ Certainly interesting. Any camera that returns the controls to the fundamental basics is to be encouraged. if you mean putting the aperture ring on the lens and shutter knob on top, that's to be *discouraged*. those were the most unergonomic places to put them and was only required because mechanical cameras had little choice where controls could go. they *had* to go there. thankfully, digital removes that limitation and now the controls can go wherever they make the most sense, which is a control wheel under the photographer's fingers. it also adds significant functionality not possible with the old style methods. worse, the above camera is manual focus, manual aperture and manual shutter speed. this is 2015, not 1965. the camera will fail. This is a funding exercise. It has yet to move beyond prototype. They give no indication of price. Most importantly, Leica already fills the FF rangefinder niche, and Fujifilm is doing a pretty good job with their various X-Series APS-C rangefinders (with standard coupled OVF, EVF, and hybrid OVF/EVF). I just don't see this getting off the ground however much it might appeal to some folks. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
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Savageduck wrote: worse, the above camera is manual focus, manual aperture and manual shutter speed. this is 2015, not 1965. the camera will fail. This is a funding exercise. It has yet to move beyond prototype. They give no indication of price. Most importantly, Leica already fills the FF rangefinder niche, and Fujifilm is doing a pretty good job with their various X-Series APS-C rangefinders (with standard coupled OVF, EVF, and hybrid OVF/EVF). I just don't see this getting off the ground however much it might appeal to some folks. not enough to matter. i didn't realize it was just in the funding stage. this is a guaranteed fail. |
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In article , Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Sandman says... Sandman: Konost is going to release a full frame digital rangefinder camera in 2016 http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The World?s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ Wha can't they add autofocus? Either contrast based or on-sensor phase AF. The only autofocusing rangefinder I know of is the Contax G, which linked the lens with the rangefinder electronically. I seem to remember it being said it was never a "true" rangefinder, probably at least partly due to this. Rangefinder cameras are manual focus... Rangefinder is a thing of the past, when autofocus wasn't possible in a non-SLR camera. Well, they most certainly are a thing of the past, but the enormous popularity with the Leica shows that the old lady still has some moves, I'd say. I think it's the idea of a more mechanical and optical camera that is tempting, well - apart from the Leica lenses being top notch in themselves of course. Nikon recently released the "Df", which was meant to be a photographers camera, where you would (or at least on paper, could) get more hands-on access to the controls. My most commonly used camera is the Sony A7, and I run it 99% of the time in full manual mode, and also using a Nikon F-mount adapter so I am "stuck" with manual focusing. The Sony has focus peking so that helps, but the EVF is pretty top notch there as well. To each his own, some say that the Konost is going to sell well for those that like or use the Leica rangefinder, saying it seems to be what they always wanted the Leica to be. Well, some do at least. -- Sandman |
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Sandman wrote: Nikon recently released the "Df", which was meant to be a photographers camera, all cameras are a meant to be a 'photographer's camera'. that's what cameras do. photograph. where you would (or at least on paper, could) get more hands-on access to the controls. the best hands-on access are control wheels under the user's fingers, not a shutter knob on top and aperture ring on the lens. |
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First "true" digital rangefinder camera
On 26 Feb 2015 12:34:06 GMT, Sandman wrote:
Konost is going to release a full frame digital rangefinder camera in 2016 http://konost.com/?page_id=6654 Dubbing it the "The World’s First True Digital Rangefinder", which seems to be in relation to the rangefinder is also a digital sensor. It looks a bit neat, and will take Leica lenses, so.. your move, Leica? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xCskVNOZQ As others have said, it probably has no chance. From their site: "The Konost Camera aims to bring back the lost experience of photography- taking time to think, focus and compose before taking the perfect image." That's all very nice, as long as the only thing you ever do is static shots, with plenty of time to get things set. Worse yet, who *wants* to take the time "to think, focus and compose", and why would that assure the "perfect image"? Or even any improvement over what comes from any other quality camera? Either way, if you're into that stuff, today's cameras have an 'M' setting on that dial. Maybe if they sell it as a novelty for $100. Or $10,000 for those who must have the "exclusive" gear. |
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