Well, Olympus's 40MP high res. mode on the E-M5 II seems to work

On 2015-03-14 12:43:46 +0000, nospam said:

In article ,
Savageduck wrote:

Virtually every characteristic of an Olympus camera except
the sensor cleaning...

Not a small list.

What exactly? I don't believe it was Canon who invented digital cameras.

it sure as hell wasn't olympus.

Nope! Ever hear of a little company called Eastman Kodak?

and look where it got them.

Only because poor management failed to step through the door their R&D
had opened to the future. That management was locked in the past and
failed to recognize the future. The same thing happened to Polaroid.
They are the most recent examples of buggy-whip factories not moving
with the times.

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Regards,

Savageduck

In article ,
Savageduck wrote:

Virtually every characteristic of an Olympus camera except
the sensor cleaning...

Not a small list.

What exactly? I don't believe it was Canon who invented digital cameras.

it sure as hell wasn't olympus.

Nope! Ever hear of a little company called Eastman Kodak?

and look where it got them.

Only because poor management failed to step through the door their R&D
had opened to the future. That management was locked in the past and
failed to recognize the future. The same thing happened to Polaroid.
They are the most recent examples of buggy-whip factories not moving
with the times.

yep.

microsoft is having that problem right now, but at least they have a
new ceo now that has a lot more clue than the blowhard before him tht
got them into the mess they're in. they won't go bankrupt any time soon
but they aren't going to ever be as dominant as they once were.

In article , Floyd L. Davidson says...
Virtually every characteristic of an Olympus camera except
the sensor cleaning...

Not a small list.

What exactly? I don't believe it was Canon who invented digital cameras.
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Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 05:41:03 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-03-14 12:21:32 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Alfred Molon
wrote:

Virtually every characteristic of an Olympus camera except
the sensor cleaning...

Not a small list.

What exactly? I don't believe it was Canon who invented digital cameras.

it sure as hell wasn't olympus.

Nope! Ever hear of a little company called Eastman Kodak?

See https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31088803/Kodak-Nikon.jpg
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 21/03/2015 9:29 a.m., RichA wrote:
On Friday, 13 March 2015 08:47:59 UTC-4, PAS wrote:
"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Savageduck says...
What other "Olympus innovations" have Nikon and/or Canon adopted,
specifically in the digital imaging genre?

Sensor vibration cleaning?

All well and good but every DSLR I've had that has had sensor vibration
cleaning, including an Olympus E-510, still needed a cleaning with
either a brush or wet swab at some point.

I've had a half-dozen Olympus cameras and NONE needed cleaning. This despite the fact they are more sensitive to diffraction effects owing to the smaller sensor size. The only cameras I had that did are a Pentax and Nikons.

One reason that the Olympus 4/3 and u4/3 cameras show less dust is
because the sensors have tended to have a far deeper "stack" of filters
over the top (~4mm vs typically 2mm), the dust on the top layer is
further away from the sensor itself, thus more out of focus.

On 21/03/2015 9:27 a.m., RichA wrote:
On Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:52:00 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-03-13 00:46:13 +0000, Rich A said:

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:26:31 AM UTC-4, nospam wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:

But the "40mp" synthesis eliminates moire, lessens noise and produces
resolution equivalent to about 32mp so it's not a bad thing to have in a
small package.

it creates horrific artifacts if the subject moves, even slightly.

it's a total hack.

I guess the "static images only" part hasn't penetrated yet?

what part of it's a 'total hack' hasn't penetrated yet?

restricting it to only static images rules out photos of people,
animals, sports, cars, planes, trains, anything on a windy day,
anything with water from ripples to actual waves and more.

if taking photos of rocks and dead people is your thing, go for it.

Ah, just wait. Like with so many Olympus innovations, as soon as it's
adopted by Canon or Nikon, the pointless criticism will stop.

What other "Olympus innovations" have Nikon and/or Canon adopted,
specifically in the digital imaging genre?

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Regards,

Savageduck

Live View, ultrasonic sensor cleaning. They don't have pixel mapping yet, but the could use it.

Despite that being "common knowledge", didn't Canon actually come up
with liveview on their EAS 20DA - about a year before Olympus introduced it?

In article ,
RichA wrote:

Live View, ultrasonic sensor cleaning. They don't have pixel mapping
yet, but the could use it.

Despite that being "common knowledge", didn't Canon actually come up
with liveview on their EAS 20DA - about a year before Olympus introduced it?

Fuji S3 Pro was first. But it was Olympus's implementation of it that cause
other manufacturers to adopt it.

in other words, olympus copied fuji.

On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 15:36:02 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:

On Sunday, 22 March 2015 05:38:46 UTC-4, Me wrote:
On 21/03/2015 9:27 a.m., RichA wrote:
On Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:52:00 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-03-13 00:46:13 +0000, Rich A said:

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:26:31 AM UTC-4, nospam wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:

But the "40mp" synthesis eliminates moire, lessens noise and produces
resolution equivalent to about 32mp so it's not a bad thing to have in a
small package.

it creates horrific artifacts if the subject moves, even slightly.

it's a total hack.

I guess the "static images only" part hasn't penetrated yet?

what part of it's a 'total hack' hasn't penetrated yet?

restricting it to only static images rules out photos of people,
animals, sports, cars, planes, trains, anything on a windy day,
anything with water from ripples to actual waves and more.

if taking photos of rocks and dead people is your thing, go for it.

Ah, just wait. Like with so many Olympus innovations, as soon as it's
adopted by Canon or Nikon, the pointless criticism will stop.

What other "Olympus innovations" have Nikon and/or Canon adopted,
specifically in the digital imaging genre?

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Live View, ultrasonic sensor cleaning. They don't have pixel mapping yet, but the could use it.

Despite that being "common knowledge", didn't Canon actually come up
with liveview on their EAS 20DA - about a year before Olympus introduced it?

Fuji S3 Pro was first. But it was Olympus's implementation of it that cause other manufacturers to adopt it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_preview

"The first digital still camera with an LCD for autogain framing
live preview was the Casio QV-10 in 1995.

And Ricoh RDC-1 in (1995, or early 1996?)[1](note: early ricoh rdc
models had only optical viewfinder, lcd was for stills and video
review playback only)

The first prosumer camera to use live view for both exposure
simulation live preview ES-LV control and live preview framing was
the fixed-lens Canon PowerShot G1 from 2000 (possibly, 1st was
Canon Powershot Pro70 in 1998), although this was still in the
line of compact cameras.

The first DSLR to use live view for framing preview only, like
early other live view but non-mirrored digicams, was the
fixed-lens Olympus E-10 from 2000. The first interchangeable-lens
DSLR to use a live preview for framing was the Fujifilm FinePix S3
Pro, which was launched in October 2004.[2] Its "Live Image" mode
could display a live, black-and-white framing preview of the
subject that could be magnified for manual focusing purposes,
although the preview was limited to a duration of thirty
seconds.[3]

The first interchangeable-lens DSLR following ES-LV capabilities
of Canon's Powershot G1 (maybe, Canon Powershot Pro70) was in
early 2005 with the Canon EOS 20Da, a special version of the Canon
EOS 20D with exposure simulation live view modifications for
astrophotography, .... "

There seems to have been a steady progress rather than a sudden 'gee
whiz!'
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Regards,

Eric Stevens