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Old March 29th 05, 04:25 PM
Jan T
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This might be just a matter of taste - degustibus et coloribus, you
know... - but I don't like TMX. It seems to me that it's mathematically
straight curve (although this is a techical exploit of Kodak!) makes my
prints look flat, especially in skin tones. APX is old technology film, more
grain, less sharp, but charming, say impressive for landscape and
portraiture. I develop in D-76 1+1 wich is, as stated in other replies, a
good combo... again: to my taste. BTW, I use it in 35mm.

Jan



"Matthew McGrattan" schreef in bericht
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| I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
| asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.
|
| Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?
|
| I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
| developer suggestions.
|
| Any other 100 asa brand that people like -- some of the smaller ones
| like Foma, Efke or Maco?
|
| Matt
|


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Old March 29th 05, 04:35 PM
Jean-David Beyer
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Jan T wrote:
This might be just a matter of taste - degustibus et coloribus, you
know... - but I don't like TMX. It seems to me that it's mathematically
straight curve (although this is a techical exploit of Kodak!) makes my
prints look flat, especially in skin tones.


Just develop to a higher contrast to increase contrast in the skin
tones. Be sure you expose correctly because underexposure will quickly
lose you shadow detail. Unfortunately there is no escaping calibrating
your exposure and development to match your enlarging system and paper.

APX is old technology film, more
grain, less sharp, but charming, say impressive for landscape and
portraiture. I develop in D-76 1+1 wich is, as stated in other replies, a
good combo... again: to my taste. BTW, I use it in 35mm.

Jan



"Matthew McGrattan" schreef in bericht
...
| I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
| asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.
|
| Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?
|
| I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
| developer suggestions.
|
| Any other 100 asa brand that people like -- some of the smaller ones
| like Foma, Efke or Maco?
|
| Matt
|




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Old March 29th 05, 04:40 PM
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"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in message
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I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use
strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


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Old March 29th 05, 04:40 PM
jjs
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"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in message
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I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use
strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


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Old March 29th 05, 04:48 PM
Matthew McGrattan
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:31 -0600, "jjs" wrote:

"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in message
.. .
I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use
strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


I just shoot for myself mostly. Walking around shots -- buildings,
people, whatever. The occasional portrait of family or friends.

I quite like the look I get from, say Pan-F+, but I would like an
extra stop or two of speed as I find that on dull days I can't really
shoot Pan-F+ handheld (especially with a filter on the camera).

I use 6x6 a fair bit in a TLR but the stuff I develop myself -- which
is a relatively new thing for me -- is 35mm.

So the film recommendation would mostly be for a film used in a 35mm
camera -- both a rangefinder and an old SLR.

I quite like the 'classic' look so the APX sounds attractive.

Matt

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Old March 29th 05, 04:48 PM
Matthew McGrattan
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:31 -0600, "jjs" wrote:

"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in message
.. .
I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use
strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


I just shoot for myself mostly. Walking around shots -- buildings,
people, whatever. The occasional portrait of family or friends.

I quite like the look I get from, say Pan-F+, but I would like an
extra stop or two of speed as I find that on dull days I can't really
shoot Pan-F+ handheld (especially with a filter on the camera).

I use 6x6 a fair bit in a TLR but the stuff I develop myself -- which
is a relatively new thing for me -- is 35mm.

So the film recommendation would mostly be for a film used in a 35mm
camera -- both a rangefinder and an old SLR.

I quite like the 'classic' look so the APX sounds attractive.

Matt

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Old March 29th 05, 04:48 PM
Matthew McGrattan
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:31 -0600, "jjs" wrote:

"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in message
.. .
I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or 50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at 100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use
strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


I just shoot for myself mostly. Walking around shots -- buildings,
people, whatever. The occasional portrait of family or friends.

I quite like the look I get from, say Pan-F+, but I would like an
extra stop or two of speed as I find that on dull days I can't really
shoot Pan-F+ handheld (especially with a filter on the camera).

I use 6x6 a fair bit in a TLR but the stuff I develop myself -- which
is a relatively new thing for me -- is 35mm.

So the film recommendation would mostly be for a film used in a 35mm
camera -- both a rangefinder and an old SLR.

I quite like the 'classic' look so the APX sounds attractive.

Matt

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Old March 29th 05, 05:14 PM
UC
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The AGFA emulsions are rather grainy compared to the competition.

FP4 Plus is decidely better.


Matthew McGrattan wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:31 -0600, "jjs" wrote:

"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in

message
.. .
I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or

50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at

100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you

want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different

character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use


strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances

acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to

alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


I just shoot for myself mostly. Walking around shots -- buildings,
people, whatever. The occasional portrait of family or friends.

I quite like the look I get from, say Pan-F+, but I would like an
extra stop or two of speed as I find that on dull days I can't really
shoot Pan-F+ handheld (especially with a filter on the camera).

I use 6x6 a fair bit in a TLR but the stuff I develop myself -- which
is a relatively new thing for me -- is 35mm.

So the film recommendation would mostly be for a film used in a 35mm
camera -- both a rangefinder and an old SLR.

I quite like the 'classic' look so the APX sounds attractive.

Matt


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Old March 29th 05, 05:14 PM
UC
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The AGFA emulsions are rather grainy compared to the competition.

FP4 Plus is decidely better.


Matthew McGrattan wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:40:31 -0600, "jjs" wrote:

"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in

message
.. .
I'm about to order some 100 asa film -- I usually shoot 400 asa or

50
asa films so I'm not that familiar with the various options at

100.

Would people recommend Tmax 100 or Agfa APX at the same speed?

I'll probably be using Rodinal initially but I'm open to other
developer suggestions.


Under what circumstances do you photograph and what outcomes do you

want?

Tm films are super fine-grain but have a completely different

character than
APX 100. I shoot a lot of APX 100 on 120 (6x6, 6x9 and 6x12) and use


strictly Rodinal 1:50 to 1:200. The grain is apparent, but enhances

acutance
quite nicely. Tmax, on the other hand, does not respond well to

alternative
dilutions, temperatures and times - IMHO.


I just shoot for myself mostly. Walking around shots -- buildings,
people, whatever. The occasional portrait of family or friends.

I quite like the look I get from, say Pan-F+, but I would like an
extra stop or two of speed as I find that on dull days I can't really
shoot Pan-F+ handheld (especially with a filter on the camera).

I use 6x6 a fair bit in a TLR but the stuff I develop myself -- which
is a relatively new thing for me -- is 35mm.

So the film recommendation would mostly be for a film used in a 35mm
camera -- both a rangefinder and an old SLR.

I quite like the 'classic' look so the APX sounds attractive.

Matt


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Old March 29th 05, 05:21 PM
jjs
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"Matthew McGrattan" wrote in message
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I just shoot for myself mostly. Walking around shots -- buildings,
people, whatever. The occasional portrait of family or friends.

I quite like the look I get from, say Pan-F+, but I would like an
extra stop or two of speed as I find that on dull days I can't really
shoot Pan-F+ handheld (especially with a filter on the camera).


Of course I cannot see what a dull day is to you, but if the light is flat
and the sky is not in the picture, consider rating the film a half stop
faster and extend development. It might work out for you. You probably won't
need a filter, either. But like I said, I can't see the case at hand. (I'm
imaging the work I did in Oxford, England. A lot of stone structures,
people, bright overcast.) Keep in mind that with objects close to infinity,
shooting just one or two stops down from wide-open usually achieves better
outcomes than stopping further. Handheld 35mm becomes more possible.

So the film recommendation would mostly be for a film used in a 35mm
camera -- both a rangefinder and an old SLR.


For APX100 in 35mm I would look to D76 1 instead of Rodinal.


 




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