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Old August 15th 05, 11:31 PM
bruceh
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Default 10d PTP and Windows 2000

I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.

TIA

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Old August 15th 05, 11:38 PM
Wolfgang Schmittenhammer
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I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.
bruceh wrote:
I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.

TIA

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Old August 15th 05, 11:54 PM
Toa
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I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built
in.


WinXP is not Win2000. You should probably head here and download a driver
http://alpha02.c-wss.com/inc/ApplServlet?SV=WWUCA900

If you had XP then you'ld probably connect automatically

Toa


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Old August 16th 05, 01:30 AM
bruceh
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I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built
in.


WinXP is not Win2000. You should probably head here and download a driver
http://alpha02.c-wss.com/inc/ApplServlet?SV=WWUCA900

If you had XP then you'ld probably connect automatically


That Canon site shows TWAIN driver for Win 2000. So does PTP
communicate with the TWAIN driver?

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Old August 16th 05, 04:20 AM
Colin D
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Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:

I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.


Not really, win2000 is/was a reincarnation of Win NT, the
business-oriented OS, with more peripheral support added in the way of
drivers and usb support, which NT lacked.

XP is a continuation of development beyond 2000, albeit with a few
downsides like inability to run some older programs, and requiring
driver updates for some peripherals.

Colin D.
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Old August 16th 05, 04:25 AM
DoN. Nichols
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In article ,
Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:
I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.


Windows 2000 is a step up from Windows NT, which is a more
secure design that Windows 95/98/ME are. But as a result of that
additional security, some drivers which run as user programs will not
work in NT/2000 (and presumably in XP, though I will *not* use XP,
because of its nasty behavior when any hardware changes are made to the
system. Since my only token Windows machine is *not* allowed access to
the internet (for security reasons), the requirement to re-register if I
change things like graphics cards or disk drives makes me jump through
more hoops than I am willing to consider.

I use unix variants for most of what I do, and the only
remaining program for which I absolutely *need* Windows is the annual
income tax software run.

bruceh wrote:
I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.


My *guess* as to what PTP is would be "Photo Transport
Protocol", based on the newsgroup in which I find this mention. I find
another protocol "PPTP" (Point to Point Tunneling Protocol) mentioned in
/etc/services on a recent OpenBSD machine. However, this does not sound
like a protocol which Windows is likely to support. :-)

Good Luck,
DoN.

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Old August 16th 05, 05:00 AM
G.T.
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
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In article ,
Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:
I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.


Windows 2000 is a step up from Windows NT, which is a more
secure design that Windows 95/98/ME are. But as a result of that
additional security, some drivers which run as user programs will not
work in NT/2000 (and presumably in XP, though I will *not* use XP,
because of its nasty behavior when any hardware changes are made to the
system. Since my only token Windows machine is *not* allowed access to
the internet (for security reasons), the requirement to re-register if I
change things like graphics cards or disk drives makes me jump through
more hoops than I am willing to consider.

I use unix variants for most of what I do, and the only
remaining program for which I absolutely *need* Windows is the annual
income tax software run.

bruceh wrote:
I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built

in.

My *guess* as to what PTP is would be "Photo Transport
Protocol", based on the newsgroup in which I find this mention. I find
another protocol "PPTP" (Point to Point Tunneling Protocol) mentioned in
/etc/services on a recent OpenBSD machine. However, this does not sound
like a protocol which Windows is likely to support. :-)


Don't know if you're trying to make a funny but PPTP was actually created by
Microsoft. OpenBSD supports it and it's a little better respected now than
during it's initial implementation.

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/Pr...qs/PPTPfaq.asp

Greg


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Old August 16th 05, 05:04 AM
Jeremy Nixon
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DoN. Nichols wrote:

I use unix variants for most of what I do, and the only
remaining program for which I absolutely *need* Windows is the annual
income tax software run.


TurboTax Web. No, really, it's quite good. I've used it for the past
several years and it's been very friendly to non-Windows browsers.

Having said that, I use Microsoft Money in Virtual PC for day to day
finance stuff. It's the one Microsoft product that gets my dollar for
actually being straight-up better than the competition. It's the only
thing I use Virtual PC for apart from the occasional test to see if
something is compatible with IE, which I care less and less about as
time passes.

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Old August 16th 05, 12:17 PM
Fred
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bruceh wrote:
I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built
in.


WinXP is not Win2000. You should probably head here and download a

driver
http://alpha02.c-wss.com/inc/ApplServlet?SV=WWUCA900

If you had XP then you'ld probably connect automatically


That Canon site shows TWAIN driver for Win 2000. So does PTP
communicate with the TWAIN driver?


According to http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/dc/PDF/10D_PTP-e.pdf

"The PTP function is only available to Windows XP or Mac OS X (10.1 or
later) users. This function provides a simple means of downloading JPEG
images to your computer. To use this function, set [Communication] to [PTP]"

Windows 2000 would use TWAIN to transfer images via camera USB connection,
but IMHO it is too slow.
Just use a card reader, it's so much faster.


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Old August 16th 05, 05:12 PM
David H. Lipman
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From: "DoN. Nichols"

| In article ,
| Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:
I am ignorant of what PTP is, but I am absolutely sold on Windows XP..
Very rarely does it ask for a driver.. Windows 98 a complete disaster,
should be shot with a silver bullet and a wood stake driven thru its
heart. It took more time installing drivers than it did the OS. I
believe Windows 2000 is a rehash of 98, not sure.

|
| Windows 2000 is a step up from Windows NT, which is a more
| secure design that Windows 95/98/ME are. But as a result of that
| additional security, some drivers which run as user programs will not
| work in NT/2000 (and presumably in XP, though I will *not* use XP,
| because of its nasty behavior when any hardware changes are made to the
| system. Since my only token Windows machine is *not* allowed access to
| the internet (for security reasons), the requirement to re-register if I
| change things like graphics cards or disk drives makes me jump through
| more hoops than I am willing to consider.
|
| I use unix variants for most of what I do, and the only
| remaining program for which I absolutely *need* Windows is the annual
| income tax software run.
|
bruceh wrote:
I have a Canon 10d which can be configured to communicate over
USB via "PTP". When I connected it to my win2000 system it prompts for
a driver. Is there such a thing? I was told that Win/XP has PTP built in.

|
| My *guess* as to what PTP is would be "Photo Transport
| Protocol", based on the newsgroup in which I find this mention. I find
| another protocol "PPTP" (Point to Point Tunneling Protocol) mentioned in
| /etc/services on a recent OpenBSD machine. However, this does not sound
| like a protocol which Windows is likely to support. :-)
|
| Good Luck,
| DoN.
|
| --
| Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
| (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
| --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

PPTP -- is a MS Networking protocol (TCP port 1723) for tunneling (shimming) one or more
protocols inside a TCP packet.

PTP - Picture Transfer Protocol is a high level programming protocol for use over; USB, IEEE
1394 (FireWire) or even IP and it is a standard for exchanging images with and between
digital still photography devices.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc...r_protocol.htm

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