Nikkor AI lenses on D70

This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI lenses
will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals). I haven't ever
seen this issue truly resolved yet. One poster at Dpreview said he/she
called Nikon but got no definitive answer. Now on Ebay someone has an AI
lens that he claims he used on his D70. I questioned him about that but
haven't received a reply back yet. What does the D70 manual say? I'm sure
Nikon will not shout out that AI lenses are acceptable, because that will
cut into their sales of new lenses. But if they don't specifically say in
the D70 manual "DO NOT USE AI lenses", then shouldn't the warrantee cover
any damage caused by an AI lens?
I'm sorry for rehashing this topic...flame away if you must ;o)
Ivan

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 20:10:26 -0600, "Ivan"
wrote:

What does the D70 manual say?

There's an online manual at:
http://www.nikon.com.sg/CATALOG/D70_UserManual.pdf

On page 183, there's a compatbility chart, showing that
AI, AI-S, Series E, and AI-modified Nikkors can be "used
in Mode M, but camera exposure meter can not be used."

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Ivan wrote:
This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI lenses
will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals). I haven't ever
seen this issue truly resolved yet. One poster at Dpreview said he/she
called Nikon but got no definitive answer. Now on Ebay someone has an AI
lens that he claims he used on his D70. I questioned him about that but
haven't received a reply back yet. What does the D70 manual say? I'm sure
Nikon will not shout out that AI lenses are acceptable, because that will
cut into their sales of new lenses. But if they don't specifically say in
the D70 manual "DO NOT USE AI lenses", then shouldn't the warrantee cover
any damage caused by an AI lens?
I'm sorry for rehashing this topic...flame away if you must ;o)
Ivan


Check out this link, though it might be more detailed than you want:

Nikon F-mount steps
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/lhhanse...mountsteps.htm

If you click the 'F-mount index' link at the bottom of the page, you can
become even more dazzled (dizzied?) with detail.

Very appreciated, thanks. I don't have a D70 yet so of course I couldn't
have looked that up. )

wrote in message What does the D70 manual say?

There's an online manual at:
http://www.nikon.com.sg/CATALOG/D70_UserManual.pdf

On page 183, there's a compatbility chart, showing that
AI, AI-S, Series E, and AI-modified Nikkors can be "used
in Mode M, but camera exposure meter can not be used."

"Ivan" writes:

This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI lenses
will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals). I haven't ever
seen this issue truly resolved yet. One poster at Dpreview said he/she
called Nikon but got no definitive answer. Now on Ebay someone has an AI
lens that he claims he used on his D70. I questioned him about that but
haven't received a reply back yet. What does the D70 manual say? I'm sure
Nikon will not shout out that AI lenses are acceptable, because that will
cut into their sales of new lenses. But if they don't specifically say in
the D70 manual "DO NOT USE AI lenses", then shouldn't the warrantee cover
any damage caused by an AI lens?
I'm sorry for rehashing this topic...flame away if you must ;o)

*Damage*? I've never even heard anybody make that assertion before.

I use AI lenses routinely on a Fuji S2, which is built on the N80
body and hence in this regard is similar to the D100. I've used 24mm
f2, 35mm f2, 50mm f2, 58mm f1.2 NOCT, and 105mm f2.5 AI lenses on my
S2.

All the compatibility charts show AIS lenses working on all cameras
that AI lenses work on. I can't find a definition of the difference,
and neither designation seems to be marked on the lenses.
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Michael Benveniste writes:

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 20:10:26 -0600, "Ivan"
wrote:

What does the D70 manual say?

There's an online manual at:
http://www.nikon.com.sg/CATALOG/D70_UserManual.pdf

On page 183, there's a compatbility chart, showing that
AI, AI-S, Series E, and AI-modified Nikkors can be "used
in Mode M, but camera exposure meter can not be used."

Which is the general behavior of non-AF (non-chipped, specifically)
lenses on Nikon digital bodies. It certainly matches what happens
with AI lenses on my Fuji S2.
--
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RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

"Mike G." writes:

Ivan wrote:
This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI
lenses will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals). I
haven't ever seen this issue truly resolved yet. One poster at
Dpreview said he/she called Nikon but got no definitive answer. Now
on Ebay someone has an AI lens that he claims he used on his D70. I
questioned him about that but haven't received a reply back yet.
What does the D70 manual say? I'm sure Nikon will not shout out
that AI lenses are acceptable, because that will cut into their
sales of new lenses. But if they don't specifically say in the D70
manual "DO NOT USE AI lenses", then shouldn't the warrantee cover
any damage caused by an AI lens?
I'm sorry for rehashing this topic...flame away if you must ;o)
Ivan
Check out this link, though it might be more detailed than you want:

Nikon F-mount steps
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/lhhanse...mountsteps.htm

If you click the 'F-mount index' link at the bottom of the page, you
can become even more dazzled (dizzied?) with detail.

Yikes! That's very detailed. I like people who bother to find all
the information and put it together in one place! So, AI-S followed
AI more quickly than I had guessed it would. (The Nikon System
Handbook says 1982 rather than the 1979 that the URL above gives,
though.) So some or most of my lenses may be AI-S rather than AI.
Some have the orange minimum aperture numerals, some do not.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

Here's the link to the D70 lens compatibility chart on Nikon's support site:
http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bin...ted=1029163096

AI lenses will work but only provide manual focus and metering.


"Ivan" wrote in message
...
This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI lenses
will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals). I haven't ever
seen this issue truly resolved yet. One poster at Dpreview said he/she
called Nikon but got no definitive answer. Now on Ebay someone has an AI
lens that he claims he used on his D70. I questioned him about that but
haven't received a reply back yet. What does the D70 manual say? I'm
sure Nikon will not shout out that AI lenses are acceptable, because that
will cut into their sales of new lenses. But if they don't specifically
say in the D70 manual "DO NOT USE AI lenses", then shouldn't the warrantee
cover any damage caused by an AI lens?
I'm sorry for rehashing this topic...flame away if you must ;o)
Ivan

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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

"Ivan" writes:

This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI lenses
will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals).

*Damage*? I've never even heard anybody make that assertion before.

Even older *non-Ai* lenses can in fact damage the body. These have an
aperture ring that falls a bit over the bayonet, for which there is no
room with modern bodies. This will/could damage either a non-flip-up Ai
slider (plm. 2 o clock on the bayonet), or the little switch of newer
bodies. (plm 7 o clock on the bayonet). Ai lenses are perfectly safe, as
far as I know.

Lourens

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This question has probably been discussed over and over, whether AI lenses
will or will NOT damage the D70 (or other Nikon digitals). I haven't ever
seen this issue truly resolved yet. One poster at Dpreview said he/she
called Nikon but got no definitive answer. Now on Ebay someone has an AI
lens that he claims he used on his D70. I questioned him about that but
haven't received a reply back yet. What does the D70 manual say? I'm sure
Nikon will not shout out that AI lenses are acceptable, because that will
cut into their sales of new lenses. But if they don't specifically say in
the D70 manual "DO NOT USE AI lenses", then shouldn't the warrantee cover
any damage caused by an AI lens?
I'm sorry for rehashing this topic...flame away if you must ;o)
Ivan

I have used several Manual Lenses and one AI Lens with my D-70 without
problem. They have to be used in Manual "M" mode however. The only thing
that I have found is that they tend to be a little tight and require more
force to put it on the camera than the "G" lens that came with it.

Jake