B&W film question

Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
Uranium Committee wrote:
: "Reany" wrote in message ...
: My darkroom has been packed away for many years. I'm setting it back up
: again and I want advice on film. I used to use Kodak panatomic-x. What
: film would you recommend as a substitute?
:
: Thanks
: Gary

: Several good choices:

: Ilford Pan-F Plus, ISO 50. Try it in Paterson Acutol 1+19 for 8
: minutes @ 20C/68F.

A very good film but with the financialSP? issues that Ilford is having
it may not last long even if Ilford survives.

: Fotokemika KB 25 (same as the former Adox KB14). Very contrasty. Try
: it in Paterson Acutol 1+22 for 7,5 minutes @ 20C/68F.

I've met people that like it a lot but have never had any luck with it.

: Ilford Delta 100. Try it in Paterson FX-39 1+19 for 7,5 minutes @
: 20C/68F. This would be my choice.

I spent a lot of time using Delta-100 this spring and like it a lot. I
developed it with Iloford's DDX developer diluted 1:9 at 75F. Great tonality
very good shadow detail and highlights that didn't block up.

: Kodak T-Max 100 is also supposed to be good, but I don't like it.

My personal opinion of Tmax-100 is that it's finest B&W film on the market.
For sheet film I develop it with Tmax-RS at 75F diluted 1:9 and for roll
film I develop it with Tmax at 75F diluted 1:9.

I know a couple of people that use Bergger film developed in Pyro. I've seen the
prints they make from it and they're excellent. I've seen 11x14 prints made from
35mm Bergger developed in Pyro and my first thought was that it was grainy 4x5 or
very good 6x4.5.



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Robert Vervoordt wrote:
: I told you I'd be watching you. Couldn't help yourself, could you?

I thank you for it. :-) I've been thinking about what it is that we're trying
to accomplish. I don't believe that the goal is to get rid of him. I think that
it's an attempt to change his behavior. The best way to do that is to reward him
when he behaves himself and to punish him when he misbehaves. I was simply rewarding
him for his good behavior.

Of course he reacts by starting a troll thread about typewriters.


: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:56:55 -0500, Frank Pittel
: wrote:

: Uranium Committee wrote:
: : "Reany" wrote in message ...
: : My darkroom has been packed away for many years. I'm setting it back up
: : again and I want advice on film. I used to use Kodak panatomic-x. What
: : film would you recommend as a substitute?
: :
: : Thanks
: : Gary
:
: : Several good choices:
:
: : Ilford Pan-F Plus, ISO 50. Try it in Paterson Acutol 1+19 for 8
: : minutes @ 20C/68F.
:
: A very good film but with the financialSP? issues that Ilford is having
: it may not last long even if Ilford survives.
:
: : Fotokemika KB 25 (same as the former Adox KB14). Very contrasty. Try
: : it in Paterson Acutol 1+22 for 7,5 minutes @ 20C/68F.
:
: I've met people that like it a lot but have never had any luck with it.
:
: : Ilford Delta 100. Try it in Paterson FX-39 1+19 for 7,5 minutes @
: : 20C/68F. This would be my choice.
:
: I spent a lot of time using Delta-100 this spring and like it a lot. I
: developed it with Iloford's DDX developer diluted 1:9 at 75F. Great tonality
: very good shadow detail and highlights that didn't block up.
:
: : Kodak T-Max 100 is also supposed to be good, but I don't like it.
:
: My personal opinion of Tmax-100 is that it's finest B&W film on the market.
: For sheet film I develop it with Tmax-RS at 75F diluted 1:9 and for roll
: film I develop it with Tmax at 75F diluted 1:9.
:
: I know a couple of people that use Bergger film developed in Pyro. I've seen the
: prints they make from it and they're excellent. I've seen 11x14 prints made from
: 35mm Bergger developed in Pyro and my first thought was that it was grainy 4x5 or
: very good 6x4.5.

: Robert Vervoordt, MFA

--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

Robert Vervoordt wrote:
: I told you I'd be watching you. Couldn't help yourself, could you?

I thank you for it. :-) I've been thinking about what it is that we're trying
to accomplish. I don't believe that the goal is to get rid of him. I think that
it's an attempt to change his behavior. The best way to do that is to reward him
when he behaves himself and to punish him when he misbehaves. I was simply rewarding
him for his good behavior.

Of course he reacts by starting a troll thread about typewriters.


: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:56:55 -0500, Frank Pittel
: wrote:

: Uranium Committee wrote:
: : "Reany" wrote in message ...
: : My darkroom has been packed away for many years. I'm setting it back up
: : again and I want advice on film. I used to use Kodak panatomic-x. What
: : film would you recommend as a substitute?
: :
: : Thanks
: : Gary
:
: : Several good choices:
:
: : Ilford Pan-F Plus, ISO 50. Try it in Paterson Acutol 1+19 for 8
: : minutes @ 20C/68F.
:
: A very good film but with the financialSP? issues that Ilford is having
: it may not last long even if Ilford survives.
:
: : Fotokemika KB 25 (same as the former Adox KB14). Very contrasty. Try
: : it in Paterson Acutol 1+22 for 7,5 minutes @ 20C/68F.
:
: I've met people that like it a lot but have never had any luck with it.
:
: : Ilford Delta 100. Try it in Paterson FX-39 1+19 for 7,5 minutes @
: : 20C/68F. This would be my choice.
:
: I spent a lot of time using Delta-100 this spring and like it a lot. I
: developed it with Iloford's DDX developer diluted 1:9 at 75F. Great tonality
: very good shadow detail and highlights that didn't block up.
:
: : Kodak T-Max 100 is also supposed to be good, but I don't like it.
:
: My personal opinion of Tmax-100 is that it's finest B&W film on the market.
: For sheet film I develop it with Tmax-RS at 75F diluted 1:9 and for roll
: film I develop it with Tmax at 75F diluted 1:9.
:
: I know a couple of people that use Bergger film developed in Pyro. I've seen the
: prints they make from it and they're excellent. I've seen 11x14 prints made from
: 35mm Bergger developed in Pyro and my first thought was that it was grainy 4x5 or
: very good 6x4.5.

: Robert Vervoordt, MFA

--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

Frank Pittel wrote:
Robert Vervoordt wrote:
: I told you I'd be watching you. Couldn't help yourself, could you?

I thank you for it. :-) I've been thinking about what it is that we're trying
to accomplish. I don't believe that the goal is to get rid of him. I think that
it's an attempt to change his behavior. The best way to do that is to reward him
when he behaves himself and to punish him when he misbehaves. I was simply rewarding
him for his good behavior.

Of course he reacts by starting a troll thread about typewriters.



Oh just killfile the clown already.....

You realize that all the talk about the troll, is just as much crap as
the postings of the troll. The best solution for trolls, is to killfile
them and ignore them. The problem is that posters do not seem to want
to ignore the troll, so we keep getting trolled.

W

Frank Pittel wrote:
Robert Vervoordt wrote:
: I told you I'd be watching you. Couldn't help yourself, could you?

I thank you for it. :-) I've been thinking about what it is that we're trying
to accomplish. I don't believe that the goal is to get rid of him. I think that
it's an attempt to change his behavior. The best way to do that is to reward him
when he behaves himself and to punish him when he misbehaves. I was simply rewarding
him for his good behavior.

Of course he reacts by starting a troll thread about typewriters.



Oh just killfile the clown already.....

You realize that all the talk about the troll, is just as much crap as
the postings of the troll. The best solution for trolls, is to killfile
them and ignore them. The problem is that posters do not seem to want
to ignore the troll, so we keep getting trolled.

W

In article ,
The Wogster wrote:

Oh just killfile the clown already.....

You realize that all the talk about the troll, is just as much crap as
the postings of the troll. The best solution for trolls, is to killfile
them and ignore them. The problem is that posters do not seem to want
to ignore the troll, so we keep getting trolled.

Its like idiots that wave a biscuit in front of a dog,...only to
pull it from the dogs mouth at the last minute.....then they cry
when the dog bites them.
--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
The Wogster wrote:

Oh just killfile the clown already.....

You realize that all the talk about the troll, is just as much crap as
the postings of the troll. The best solution for trolls, is to killfile
them and ignore them. The problem is that posters do not seem to want
to ignore the troll, so we keep getting trolled.

Its like idiots that wave a biscuit in front of a dog,...only to
pull it from the dogs mouth at the last minute.....then they cry
when the dog bites them.
--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
The Wogster wrote:

Oh just killfile the clown already.....

You realize that all the talk about the troll, is just as much crap as
the postings of the troll. The best solution for trolls, is to killfile
them and ignore them. The problem is that posters do not seem to want
to ignore the troll, so we keep getting trolled.

Its like idiots that wave a biscuit in front of a dog,...only to
pull it from the dogs mouth at the last minute.....then they cry
when the dog bites them.
--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:11:26 GMT, Gregory W Blank
wrote:

Its like idiots that wave a biscuit in front of a dog,...only to
pull it from the dogs mouth at the last minute.....then they cry
when the dog bites them.

Best way to teach a dog not to bite is to bite them first.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.puresilver.org
Please remove the "_" when replying via email

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:23:04 -0500, Frank Pittel
wrote:

Robert Vervoordt wrote:
: I told you I'd be watching you. Couldn't help yourself, could you?

I thank you for it. :-) I've been thinking about what it is that we're trying
to accomplish. I don't believe that the goal is to get rid of him.

Perhaps not, but I'd take that if I couldn't get anything better.
Hmm, is there anything better?

I think that
it's an attempt to change his behavior. The best way to do that is to reward him
when he behaves himself and to punish him when he misbehaves. I was simply rewarding
him for his good behavior.

That's noble of you. Nobility should be recognized and rewarded.

Of course he reacts by starting a troll thread about typewriters.

Some reward! Consistent, to say the least; I just did.


: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:56:55 -0500, Frank Pittel
: wrote:

: Uranium Committee wrote:
: : "Reany" wrote in message ...
: : My darkroom has been packed away for many years. I'm setting it back up
: : again and I want advice on film. I used to use Kodak panatomic-x. What
: : film would you recommend as a substitute?
: :
: : Thanks
: : Gary
:
: : Several good choices:
:
: : Ilford Pan-F Plus, ISO 50. Try it in Paterson Acutol 1+19 for 8
: : minutes @ 20C/68F.
:
: A very good film but with the financialSP? issues that Ilford is having
: it may not last long even if Ilford survives.
:
: : Fotokemika KB 25 (same as the former Adox KB14). Very contrasty. Try
: : it in Paterson Acutol 1+22 for 7,5 minutes @ 20C/68F.
:
: I've met people that like it a lot but have never had any luck with it.
:
: : Ilford Delta 100. Try it in Paterson FX-39 1+19 for 7,5 minutes @
: : 20C/68F. This would be my choice.
:
: I spent a lot of time using Delta-100 this spring and like it a lot. I
: developed it with Iloford's DDX developer diluted 1:9 at 75F. Great tonality
: very good shadow detail and highlights that didn't block up.
:
: : Kodak T-Max 100 is also supposed to be good, but I don't like it.
:
: My personal opinion of Tmax-100 is that it's finest B&W film on the market.
: For sheet film I develop it with Tmax-RS at 75F diluted 1:9 and for roll
: film I develop it with Tmax at 75F diluted 1:9.
:
: I know a couple of people that use Bergger film developed in Pyro. I've seen the
: prints they make from it and they're excellent. I've seen 11x14 prints made from
: 35mm Bergger developed in Pyro and my first thought was that it was grainy 4x5 or
: very good 6x4.5.


Robert Vervoordt, MFA