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Old September 24th 04, 08:33 PM
Ralf R. Radermacher
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John wrote:

I'd have to consider the Efke 25.


Awfully contrasty and if you want to scan the stuff with something like
an Epson 4780 you'll need the 12 volume edition of the Oxford Dictionary
to weigh the lid down.

Ralf

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Old September 24th 04, 09:10 PM
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"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.


I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with
the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and
photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product
range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will
be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200

Production of the other film types is said to continue.
This includes
120 roll film.

On the paper side, we'll have to do without Ilfobrom
Gallery, the
Cooltone and Portfolio versions of Multigrade, as well as
some grades of
Ilfospeed.

Ralf

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2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses


This would seem to mean the demise of Freestyle's Arista
sheet film, which is Ilford film. I wonder what they will
replace it with since Agfa is making only a limited variety
of sheet films and Kodak does not make custom products. I
don't have much trust in either the technology or quality
control of the manufacturers in the former Eastern zone.
Ilford seems to have awakened from a nightmare only to
find its true. Kodak seems to be the only one tryign to hang
on to the film business at all.


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Old September 24th 04, 09:10 PM
Richard Knoppow
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"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.


I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with
the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and
photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product
range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will
be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200

Production of the other film types is said to continue.
This includes
120 roll film.

On the paper side, we'll have to do without Ilfobrom
Gallery, the
Cooltone and Portfolio versions of Multigrade, as well as
some grades of
Ilfospeed.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated April 29,
2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses


This would seem to mean the demise of Freestyle's Arista
sheet film, which is Ilford film. I wonder what they will
replace it with since Agfa is making only a limited variety
of sheet films and Kodak does not make custom products. I
don't have much trust in either the technology or quality
control of the manufacturers in the former Eastern zone.
Ilford seems to have awakened from a nightmare only to
find its true. Kodak seems to be the only one tryign to hang
on to the film business at all.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA



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Old September 24th 04, 09:21 PM
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Richard Knoppow wrote:

of sheet films and Kodak does not make custom products. I



Kodak last year annnouned they intended to make no-name film. I guess they
meant store brand 35mm but once you start down the road I don't see why they
wouldn't make store brand sheet film.

Nick
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Old September 24th 04, 09:21 PM
Nick Zentena
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Richard Knoppow wrote:

of sheet films and Kodak does not make custom products. I



Kodak last year annnouned they intended to make no-name film. I guess they
meant store brand 35mm but once you start down the road I don't see why they
wouldn't make store brand sheet film.

Nick
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Old September 24th 04, 09:23 PM
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"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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John wrote:

I'd have to consider the Efke 25.


Awfully contrasty and if you want to scan the stuff with something like
an Epson 4780 you'll need the 12 volume edition of the Oxford Dictionary
to weigh the lid down.


*Efke 25 is not unusually contrasty. In fact, I'd say highlights are more
printable than TMax. I was amazed by the tonal range of the first shots I
did at near high-noon. In fact, I will have to come up with some interesting
N+ development for the nominal N scenes.

When I scanned a negative on the Epson 3200 (not a great scanner), I could
get detail in Zone VIII, no problem.

(Efke 25 4x5, Rodinal 1:100, 16minutes 70F, moderate agitation)


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Old September 24th 04, 09:23 PM
jjs
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"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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John wrote:

I'd have to consider the Efke 25.


Awfully contrasty and if you want to scan the stuff with something like
an Epson 4780 you'll need the 12 volume edition of the Oxford Dictionary
to weigh the lid down.


*Efke 25 is not unusually contrasty. In fact, I'd say highlights are more
printable than TMax. I was amazed by the tonal range of the first shots I
did at near high-noon. In fact, I will have to come up with some interesting
N+ development for the nominal N scenes.

When I scanned a negative on the Epson 3200 (not a great scanner), I could
get detail in Zone VIII, no problem.

(Efke 25 4x5, Rodinal 1:100, 16minutes 70F, moderate agitation)


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Old September 24th 04, 10:14 PM
Jean-David Beyer
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Nick Zentena wrote:
Richard Knoppow wrote:


of sheet films and Kodak does not make custom products. I




Kodak last year annnouned they intended to make no-name film. I guess they
meant store brand 35mm but once you start down the road I don't see why they
wouldn't make store brand sheet film.

Nick


I see why not. We are not talking about small mom&pop specialty
photography shops. Will WalMart start stocking house brand sheet film?

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Old September 24th 04, 10:14 PM
Jean-David Beyer
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Nick Zentena wrote:
Richard Knoppow wrote:


of sheet films and Kodak does not make custom products. I




Kodak last year annnouned they intended to make no-name film. I guess they
meant store brand 35mm but once you start down the road I don't see why they
wouldn't make store brand sheet film.

Nick


I see why not. We are not talking about small mom&pop specialty
photography shops. Will WalMart start stocking house brand sheet film?

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Old September 24th 04, 10:38 PM
Nick Zentena
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Jean-David Beyer wrote:


I see why not. We are not talking about small mom&pop specialty
photography shops. Will WalMart start stocking house brand sheet film?



What does it take to make house brand sheet film? Change the outer box.
Anything else? If mom and pa are willing to buy enough to fill the special
order requirement then all Kodak has to do is use different boxes. Does
Freestyle order enough film every year for that?

Nick
 




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