Ilford 120 Pan F

No sheet film is plenty bad, but this is hear say
and from Ilford France. Best thing is to just wait and watch
and buy the stuff you want while its still available.


In article ,
LR Kalajainen wrote:

Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me given Ilford's financial woes.
Of course, since I use none of the discontinued items, it's not my ox
being gored. Tell me they're cancelling Delta 400 or HP5+ or Multigrade
Warmtone and I'll scream along with everyone else.

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
ATIPPETT wrote:

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200

Production of the other film types is said to continue. This includes
120 roll film.

On the paper side, we'll have to do without Ilfobrom Gallery, the
Cooltone and Portfolio versions of Multigrade, as well as some grades of
Ilfospeed.

Ralf


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No sheet film is plenty bad, but this is hear say
and from Ilford France. Best thing is to just wait and watch
and buy the stuff you want while its still available.


In article ,
LR Kalajainen wrote:

Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me given Ilford's financial woes.
Of course, since I use none of the discontinued items, it's not my ox
being gored. Tell me they're cancelling Delta 400 or HP5+ or Multigrade
Warmtone and I'll scream along with everyone else.

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
ATIPPETT wrote:

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200

Production of the other film types is said to continue. This includes
120 roll film.

On the paper side, we'll have to do without Ilfobrom Gallery, the
Cooltone and Portfolio versions of Multigrade, as well as some grades of
Ilfospeed.

Ralf


--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
...
ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.

I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

Where can I read that? Doesn't matter if it's in French or German...

"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
...
ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.

I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

Where can I read that? Doesn't matter if it's in French or German...

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:44:04 +0200, (Ralf R.
Radermacher) wrote:

ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.

I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200


I think it comes down to what sells, and what sits in inventory, the
key for any manufacturer, especially of time sensitive goods, is to
bring in raw materials as needed, then get the stuff out the door as
quickly as they can. You don't want to keep inventory on this
stuff, you have money invested in the raw materials, and you need
somewhere to store it, and you need to throw it away, if it expires.

The other issue, some of these products are sacred cows, if they want
investors to take them seriously, they need to be sending some of
those sacred cows to the slaughter house..... Expect before they are
done, maybe fewer chemical choices as well....

W

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:44:04 +0200, (Ralf R.
Radermacher) wrote:

ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.

I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200


I think it comes down to what sells, and what sits in inventory, the
key for any manufacturer, especially of time sensitive goods, is to
bring in raw materials as needed, then get the stuff out the door as
quickly as they can. You don't want to keep inventory on this
stuff, you have money invested in the raw materials, and you need
somewhere to store it, and you need to throw it away, if it expires.

The other issue, some of these products are sacred cows, if they want
investors to take them seriously, they need to be sending some of
those sacred cows to the slaughter house..... Expect before they are
done, maybe fewer chemical choices as well....

W

Does anyone have a suggested replacement for Pan F+, particularly one in 120 format?


(Ralf R. Radermacher) wrote in message ...
ATIPPETT wrote:

I am switching from Tri-X to Pan F.

I'm afraid you're a tad late, mate...

This month's "Réponses Photo" features an interview with the marketing
director of Ilford France. He claims that film and photographic paper
production will continue, although with a reduced product range.

He explicitly states that the following film products will be axed:

- all sheet film (!!)
- Pan F
- SFX 200

Production of the other film types is said to continue. This includes
120 roll film.

On the paper side, we'll have to do without Ilfobrom Gallery, the
Cooltone and Portfolio versions of Multigrade, as well as some grades of
Ilfospeed.

Ralf

On 24 Sep 2004 08:22:46 -0700, (Mike
Schuler) wrote:

Does anyone have a suggested replacement for Pan F+, particularly one in 120 format?


I'd have to consider the Efke 25.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.puresilver.org
Please remove the "_" when replying via email

On 24 Sep 2004 08:22:46 -0700, (Mike
Schuler) wrote:

Does anyone have a suggested replacement for Pan F+, particularly one in 120 format?


I'd have to consider the Efke 25.


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.puresilver.org
Please remove the "_" when replying via email

John wrote:

I'd have to consider the Efke 25.

Awfully contrasty and if you want to scan the stuff with something like
an Epson 4780 you'll need the 12 volume edition of the Oxford Dictionary
to weigh the lid down.

Ralf

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