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Old March 15th 07, 11:49 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
RichA
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

.....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_a...canon+20d/rd=1

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Old March 16th 07, 01:49 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......


"RichA" wrote in message
oups.com...
....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.

Greg


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Old March 16th 07, 02:48 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Phil K
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......


"G.T." wrote in message
...

"RichA" wrote in message
oups.com...
....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.

Greg


I wonder if RichA shoots anything besides his wad when he's writing his
kvetchy little posts.


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Old March 16th 07, 04:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:
"RichA" wrote in message

oups.com...

....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.

Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.

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Old March 16th 07, 04:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Bill Funk
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

On 15 Mar 2007 21:29:38 -0700, "RichA" wrote:

On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:
"RichA" wrote in message

oups.com...

....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.

Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.


Given the fact that your main complaint is about plastic (read the
subject), why would we conclude that you care about the relative
merits (if you even knew about them) other than the stated obvious?

--
Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Peter
Pace said Monday he thinks
homosexuality is immoral and should
not be allowed in the military.
He said it's no different than
adultery. The next morning, Rudy
Giuliani, Newt Gingrich and Bill
Clinton challenged him to a fight
in the schoolyard.
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Old March 16th 07, 05:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

On Mar 15, 11:29 pm, "RichA" wrote:
On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:

"RichA" wrote in message


roups.com...


....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.


Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.


RichA detested all plastic.
His thinking was truly fantastic.
His pics were not nice,
And he gave bad advice.
The results were sadly quite drastic.

Austin

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Old March 16th 07, 05:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Ken Lucke
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

In article . com,
AustinMN wrote:

On Mar 15, 11:29 pm, "RichA" wrote:
On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:

"RichA" wrote in message


roups.com...


....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.


Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.


RichA detested all plastic.
His thinking was truly fantastic.
His pics were not nice,
And he gave bad advice.
The results were sadly quite drastic.

Austin


Ooh! Oooh! Can we start a "RichA-Bashing Limerick Contest" for St.
Pattie's Day???? Winner gets a huge glowing plastic something?

Would that I had skill in fashioning creative rhymes.
g

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reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
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Old March 16th 07, 05:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
DJB
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

On Mar 16, 12:29 am, "RichA" wrote:
On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:

"RichA" wrote in message


roups.com...


....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.


Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.


+2 megapixels
Autoiso
RGB histogram
Cleaning system
30D autofocus system
longer continuous shooting (up to 27jpg vs 23, similar for RAW)
bigger, brighter LCD
shutter doesn't sound like a rat trap

I would probably pick the XTi for the autoiso and RGB histogram, with
the other features being nice-to-have. And I like the small size of
the rebel models... I can be alot more discreet between the body size
and more quiet shutter.

And if that's not enough for you Rich, it has...

a DIRECT PRINT BUTTON!!!!

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Old March 16th 07, 10:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
RichA
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

On Mar 16, 11:50 am, Bill Funk wrote:
On 15 Mar 2007 21:29:38 -0700, "RichA" wrote:



On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:
"RichA" wrote in message


groups.com...


....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.


Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.


Given the fact that your main complaint is about plastic (read the
subject), why would we conclude that you care about the relative
merits (if you even knew about them) other than the stated obvious?


Because I admire the 20D. Canon basically created a well-featured,
bulletproof, ergonomically outstanding camera for a reasonable cost.
Now, everything is about tight cost control, smallness and appealing
to the unwashed. Hence, you get to pay over $1000 for some plastic
bodies and the only marginally reasonably priced metal body is (again)
a Canon, the 30D.


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Old March 16th 07, 10:12 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
RichA
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Default Before squandering $1000 on plastic......

On Mar 16, 12:14 pm, "AustinMN" wrote:
On Mar 15, 11:29 pm, "RichA" wrote:



On Mar 15, 8:49 pm, "G.T." wrote:


"RichA" wrote in message


roups.com...


....check out the prices for the older Canon 20D, a FAR better built
camera than the entry-level plastic 10 megs out there.


Damn Rich, I'm still waiting for my XT to crumble apart in my hands.


Greg


Well say you were considering an XTi or the 20D. Both roughly the
same price now. Why would someone choose the XTi? Just for the extra
2 megapixels? If someone were to compare them side by side, it
boggles the mind that some could choose the XTi.


RichA detested all plastic.
His thinking was truly fantastic.
His pics were not nice,
And he gave bad advice.
The results were sadly quite drastic.

Austin


Lets look at where we are compared to three years ago.
Three years ago, plastic was bottom-rung in DSLRs. Now, they are the
mainstay because the camera mfgs are targeting the lowest echilon of
user.
Three years ago, we had $800 P&S cameras, with metal bodies, 2/3"
sensors, high quality zooms.
Now, we have cheap plastic crap from almost every line, all of which
perform (check dpreview's last 20 P&S reviews)
just about the same, which is to say poorly.
My advice is simple; If at all possible, get a metal-bodied DSLR.
Why? Because it goes beyond metal. The whole camera (what is
available now) is head and tails BETTER BUILT and nicer to use than
the plastic stuff they are foisting on the unwary.
If saving 30-50% of the price of the camera means you have to step
down 500% in quality, where is the value????
There are some exceptions to the above, but the trend is downward.
Offer more megapixels while you rape the crap out of the overall
quality of the camera. It's a poor trade-off.


 




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