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REC.PHOTO.* CHARTER
ec.photo.misc General issues related to photography
This newsgroup will deal with postings on all subjects not specifically covered by the other rec.photo newsgroups. It is required in place of rec.photo in order that postings are not posted to "rec.photo" by default. Any and all postings concerning the recreational use of photography will be appropriate for inclusion in this newsgroup. Such postings might include (but are not limited to) announcements of photographic shows, requests for travel related photographic information, book reviews, discussions of ethical issues, general discussions about the "death of photography", discussion of the work of famous photographers, philosophy etc. This newsgroup specifically does *NOT* permit the posting of commercial advertisments for products or services, even if they are related to photography. rec.photo.marketplace Trading of personal photgraphic equipment rec.photo.marketplace will contain all "for sale" and "wanted" postings. These posting will be restricted to the private sale of personally owned and used equipment. This newsgroup specifically does *not* permit commercial advertising, postings by dealers selling or soliciting equipment, or postings by amateurs regularly dealing in used equipment principally or incidentally for purposes of financial gain. It is intended as a forum in which photographers can sell, trade or request equipment in connection with their individual photographic interests. Postings which receive no replies should *NOT* be reposted for at least one week after the initial posting and should not be repeatedly reposted without material change. Replies (other than factual corrections) should be sent *only* by email and *never* posted in rec.photo.marketplace. Advertisers should include a telephone number if possible in case there are problems with email connections (and email problems are not unusal!). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The charters for the new rec.photo.marketplace.* groups which were created in early 1999 follow: CHARTER: all groups Rec.photo.marketplace.* will contain all "for sale" and "wanted" postings. These posting will be restricted to the private sale of personally owned and used equipment. These newsgroups specifically do *not* permit commercial advertising, postings by dealers selling or soliciting equipment, postings from internet auction sites, or postings by amateurs regularly dealing in used equipment principally or incidentally for purposes of financial gain. They are intended as forums in which photographers can sell, trade or request equipment in connection with their individual photographic interests. Postings which receive no replies should *NOT* be reposted for at least one week after the initial posting and should not be repeatedly reposted without material change. Replies (other than factual corrections) should be sent *only* by email and *never* posted in rec.photo.marketplace.*. Advertisers should include a telephone number if possible in case there are problems with email connections (and email problems are not unusal!). Posters should indicate their geographical location. For the benefit of all parties, posters are strongly encouraged to make subject lines as descriptive as possible (e.g. "WTB Nikkor 10mm OP-Fisheye lens", "300mm for Pentax 6x7 FS", etc). Use of brand names is encouraged, as well as abbreviations such as "WTB" (Want To Buy) and "FS" (For Sale). Postings for auctions which are hosted on web-servers such as eBay, *must* include the keyword [Auction] at the start of the Subject line (e.g. "[Auction] Szabad half-plate camera for sale"). Postings must _not_ be crossposted to any of the rec.photo.* discussion groups. Crossposting within the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups is normally not permitted, with the exception of informational postings. Binary postings are not acceptable in any of the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups. If and when new groups are added to the rec.photo.marketplace.* hierarchy, the "all groups" section of this charter may be changed to accomodate any changed circumstances caused by the addition of the new group(s). Such a change of the general "rec.photo.marketplace.*" charter must be included as a part of a newsgroup proposal, and must be explicity mentioned in the proposal END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm For buying and selling 35mm equipment. All postings made to this group should conform to the general charter for the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups (see above under the heading "CHARTER: all groups") and existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.photo.marketplace.darkroom For buying and selling darkroom equipment and supplies. All postings made to this group should conform to the general charter for the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups (see above under the heading "CHARTER: all groups") and existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.photo.marketplace.digital For buying and selling digital imaging equipment and supplies. All postings made to this group should conform to the general charter for the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups (see above under the heading "CHARTER: all groups") and existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.photo.marketplace.large-format For buying and selling large format equipment. Large format is defined as equipment designed for use with sheet film, normally with negative sizes from 4x5" (or 9x12cm) and upwards. All postings made to this group should conform to the general charter for the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups (see above under the heading "CHARTER: all groups") and existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.photo.marketplace.medium-format For buying and selling medium format equipment. Medium format is normally defined as equipment using roll films in 120, 220, 127, 620 or similar sizes, with negative formats ranging from 4x4cm to 6x17cm. All postings made to this group should conform to the general charter for the rec.photo.marketplace.* groups (see above under the heading "CHARTER: all groups") and existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). END CHARTER. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- rec.photo.darkroom Developing, printing and other darkroom issues This newsgroup will contain postings related to all aspects of photographic darkroom use. As such it will cover subjects such as the developing of slide and negative film, photographic printing from negatives and slides, photographic toning processes and alternative chemistry. This newsgroup specifically does *NOT* permit the posting of commercial advertisments for products or services, even if they are related to photography. rec.photo.misc General issues related to photography This newsgroup will deal with postings on all subjects not specifically covered by the other rec.photo newsgroups. It is required in place of rec.photo in order that postings are not posted to "rec.photo" by default. Any and all postings concerning the recreational use of photography will be appropriate for inclusion in this newsgroup. Such postings might include (but are not limited to) announcements of photographic shows, requests for travel related photographic information, book reviews, discussions of ethical issues, general discussions about the "death of photography", discussion of the work of famous photographers, philosophy etc. This newsgroup specifically does *NOT* permit the posting of commercial advertisments for products or services, even if they are related to photography. rec.photo.digital This group is for the discussion of all aspects of digital photography, including digital cameras, scanners, image manipulation software, printers, and CD-ROM technology. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is an any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.technique.nature Wildlife, landscapes, travel tips etc. This group is for the discussion of the techniques involved in nature photography and other peripheral issues. It is not intended for discussions of equipment except where a piece of equipment is directly related to some other technique issue. Strictly equipment discussions should take place in the relevant equipment group. Issues appropriate for this group would be ethics of nature photography, questions about locations for nature photography, questions about how to most effectively *USE* equipment, questions about projected flash techniques, questions about macro techniques, etc. Examples of appropriate question involving equipment might be: * What's the most useful fixed focal length lens for landscapes, 20, 24 or 28mm? * Is a 300/4 or 400/5.6 lens more useful for wildlife work? * Is mirror lock up really useful in nature photography? * Is autofocus really needed for nature photography? Inappropriate equipment related questions would be: * Is the Canon 24/2.8 better than the Sigma 24/2.8? * Is the Canon 300/4L better than the Sigma 400/5.6 APO? * What's the best 100-300mm zoom lens? * Does anyone have test reports on the Nikon 80-200/2.8? All questions about specific items of equipment belong in the equipment groups. Tagging on a nature comment such as "is lens A better than lens B - FOR NATURE WORK", does *NOT* make them appropriate for the technique group! All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.technique.people Portraits, figure studies, weddings etc. This group is for postings related to the photography of people. This includes portraits, figure studies, abstracts, nudes etc. It is not intended for the discussion of equipment except as related to other issues of technique. Suitable topics for posting would include lighting, posing, models, releases, wedding photography etc. Examples of appropriate question involving equipment might be: * What's the best focal length for portrait photography? * Do I really need to move to medium format for weddings? * Are soft focus lenses/filters really useful? Inappropriate equipment related questions would be: * What's the best 85mm f1.8 lens? * Should I buy a Canon or Nikon system? * Are Sigma lenses just as good as Zeiss lenses? These latter 3 questions all belong in the relevant equipment subgroup. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.technique.art Issues of fine art, framing, display This group is for postings related to art issues in photography. These would include what "art" really is, discussions of particular photographs and what makes them art, mounting and displaying pictures as art, fine art photography etc. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.technique.misc Misc non-equipment posts about technique This group is for the discussion of issues of technique which are not covered by any other technique group. Such subjects might include sports photography, aerial photography, architectural photography, scientific photography, photomicroscopy, copy work etc. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.equipment.large-format - Large format cameras and lenses This group is for the discussion of any issues related to large format equipment. Large format cameras are normally taken to be those which record their images on individual plates, rather than on roll film, and in which the image size is 4" x 5" or larger. Such cameras are often referred to as "view cameras" and focusing is normally achieved by observing the image on a ground glass screen, which is replaced by the photographic plate prior to exposure. "Plate" in this case refers to either glass plates, or individual sheets of photographic film. The 4" x 5" specification above is not intended to exclude cameras using smaller film size, should they possess the other characteristics of "large_format" or "view" cameras. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.equipment.medium-format - Medium format cameras and lenses This group would be for the discussion of issues related to medium format equipment. Medium format cameras are normally taken to be cameras in which 120 or 620 size roll film is used, producing images in the range of 6cm x 4.5cm to 6cm x 9cm. The cameras used are typically either single lens reflex, twin lens reflex or scale (or rangefinder) focusing. The discussion of panoramic cameras using 120 film size would also be appropriate for this group. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.equipment.35mm - 35mm cameras and lenses This group is for the discussion of all aspects of 35mm camera equipment. This includes 35mm SLR camera bodies and lenses, 35mm point-and-shoot cameras, 35mm rangefinder cameras, 35mm scale focus cameras and 35mm half-frame cameras. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.equipment.misc Other formats, tripods, projectors, bags etc. This group is for the discussion of equipment not covered by any other equipment group. This would include tripods, projectors and screens, camera bags, lighting equipment, batteries, flash equipment, light meters, filters. Equipment related to digital photography or home darkroom use should be posted to either rec.photo.digital or rec.photo.darkroom respectively, rather than in this group. Postings about cameras not covered by the other equipments groups (e.g. subminiature) may be made in this group. Postings about movie cameras using film (but not video cameras, which are covered in the rec.video groups) would also be appropriate. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.equipment.film+labs Film and commercial photofinishing This group is for the discussion of photographic film of any format and type. It is anticipated that the discussions will concern the imaging characteristics of the film and conditions under which each film type of film will give optimum results. This group is also for the discussion of *COMMERCIAL* photofinishing services, i.e. recommendations for and comments on photo labs, It is *NOT* for advertising by such labs. Postings about film development related to home darkroom use should be posted to rec.photo.darkroom, not rec.photo.film+labs. All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited. rec.photo.moderated Rec.photo.moderated is a moderated Usenet newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the art and science of photography and that are of interest to the serious amateur recreational photographer. MODERATION CRITERIA Articles must be relevant to the art or science of photography and of interest to serious amateur recreational photographers, must be in reasonably good taste, and must conform to Usenet guidelines. Suitable topics include: the technical aspects of photographic equipment, technique, optics, film, photographic philosophy, ethics and conduct, photography as fine art, and brief reviews of new products and announcements of events. Other topics may be accepted at the moderators' discretion, with the main criterion being interest to serious amateur recreation photographers. Articles about topics usually associated with commercial/professional photography may be accepted on a limited basis as long as they are relevant to serious amateur recreational photographers. Thus, for example, postings regarding wedding photography may be accepted if they meet the relevancy test, but articles regarding the business aspects of wedding photography are not acceptable. Advertising is prohibited, except that brief notices of events, shows, workshops, and the like will be considered if they relate to the art or science of photography and are of interest to serious amateur recreational photographers. Postings must bear the submitter's real name and contain a valid reply address. Authors that are affiliated with or have other financial interest in manufacturers, distributors, or service providers must disclose this fact in postings mentioning those products or services. Picture (binary) postings are not accepted. The moderators reserve the right to cut off the discussion of a topic when its "signal to noise ratio" has dropped too low and reject postings on recently discussed topics. They will also normally reject postings comparing or seeking comparisons of equipment, "what xxx should I buy?" and "me too" postings, and postings asking questions the author could have answered for himself/herself with a minimal amount of work. Flames will be rejected. Postings may be rejected because of inappropriate crossposting, and postings to multiple moderated groups will normally be rejected. (Approved FAQs, RFDs, and CFVs are a special case.) |
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