Newbie question: Is Jobo the way to go for large format negs?

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
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jjs wrote:
[...]
It's all special order here. So I just order from the US and pay less
then
50% the special order price. What can you do. It would be nice if Jobo USA
would go back to answering questions on this newsgroup.

I'd be very interested in the 3010 drum for 4x5 if I could run it off a
different roller system.

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
jjs wrote:
[...]
It's all special order here. So I just order from the US and pay less
then
50% the special order price. What can you do. It would be nice if Jobo USA
would go back to answering questions on this newsgroup.

I'd be very interested in the 3010 drum for 4x5 if I could run it off a
different roller system.

jjs wrote:
"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
jjs wrote:
[...]
It's all special order here. So I just order from the US and pay less
then
50% the special order price. What can you do. It would be nice if Jobo USA
would go back to answering questions on this newsgroup.

I'd be very interested in the 3010 drum for 4x5 if I could run it off a
different roller system.


I know some seem to have problems with the 2500 type drums but they seem
to work fine for me. I sit mine on a unicolor roller base. I got two bases
for I guess $25 US. The Jobo website should still have a short webpage
discussing using Jobo tanks on motorbases. For B&W I think it's a great
choice. Even works for C-41/RA-4 if you have a way to temper the chemicals.
I can't vouch for E-6. The developer steps are longer and might cause a
problem. When I first thought about doing color I did a simple test. Filling
the tank with 100F water. The temp was pretty constant for 10minutes but I'm
not sure it's tight enought for E-6.

Okay this is the Jobo webpage.

http://www.jobo-usa.com/faq/drums_on_motorbase.htm

I know the 2500s work fine. I can't vouch for the 3000 type tanks. How
long is the 3010? It needs to be long enough to cover the two rollers.

Nick

Nick

jjs wrote:
"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
jjs wrote:
[...]
It's all special order here. So I just order from the US and pay less
then
50% the special order price. What can you do. It would be nice if Jobo USA
would go back to answering questions on this newsgroup.

I'd be very interested in the 3010 drum for 4x5 if I could run it off a
different roller system.


I know some seem to have problems with the 2500 type drums but they seem
to work fine for me. I sit mine on a unicolor roller base. I got two bases
for I guess $25 US. The Jobo website should still have a short webpage
discussing using Jobo tanks on motorbases. For B&W I think it's a great
choice. Even works for C-41/RA-4 if you have a way to temper the chemicals.
I can't vouch for E-6. The developer steps are longer and might cause a
problem. When I first thought about doing color I did a simple test. Filling
the tank with 100F water. The temp was pretty constant for 10minutes but I'm
not sure it's tight enought for E-6.

Okay this is the Jobo webpage.

http://www.jobo-usa.com/faq/drums_on_motorbase.htm

I know the 2500s work fine. I can't vouch for the 3000 type tanks. How
long is the 3010? It needs to be long enough to cover the two rollers.

Nick

Nick

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"jjs" wrote:

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
jjs wrote:
[...]
It's all special order here. So I just order from the US and pay less
then
50% the special order price. What can you do. It would be nice if Jobo USA
would go back to answering questions on this newsgroup.

I'd be very interested in the 3010 drum for 4x5 if I could run it off a
different roller system.

The 3010 on the flat portion is about 7" there are two 1/2" flanges
at each end, so I thin the effective use area for a non adjustable
roller base would need to be about 6". Jobo also had at one point
a independant roller that you could set on a flat table etc.

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"jjs" wrote:

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
jjs wrote:
[...]
It's all special order here. So I just order from the US and pay less
then
50% the special order price. What can you do. It would be nice if Jobo USA
would go back to answering questions on this newsgroup.

I'd be very interested in the 3010 drum for 4x5 if I could run it off a
different roller system.

The 3010 on the flat portion is about 7" there are two 1/2" flanges
at each end, so I thin the effective use area for a non adjustable
roller base would need to be about 6". Jobo also had at one point
a independant roller that you could set on a flat table etc.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 8/3/2004 9:03 PM PGG spake thus:

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 03:08:35 +0000, Marco Milazzo wrote:

I want to do 4 X 5 and 8 X 10 Large negs. I don't have a darkroom with
running water, but I do have a (not completely dark) bathroom. I
assume
I can load Jobo tanks in the dark and do all other processing in the
light -- correct?

Any advantages or disadvantages of Jobo over tray-development?

Is there a better way to go than Jobo?

I've been using a simple Unicolor drum and roller. Cost me $30 on eBay.
Works fine.

Same here. No need for more expensive hardware in this department so far
as I
can see. Try it; it's cheap.

Another option is ABS and PVC pipe parts from the local home improvement
store. If you're build a few of them, you can build tanks with daylight
fill and dump for 8x10 (3" pipe size) for about $6-$8 each; these are
for inversion agitation and hand processing, but could probably also be
used on a roller base if you already have one or build one of your own.

--
I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
-- E. J. Fudd, 1954

Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer
Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm
Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm

Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
and don't expect them to be perfect.

David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 8/3/2004 9:03 PM PGG spake thus:

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 03:08:35 +0000, Marco Milazzo wrote:

I want to do 4 X 5 and 8 X 10 Large negs. I don't have a darkroom with
running water, but I do have a (not completely dark) bathroom. I
assume
I can load Jobo tanks in the dark and do all other processing in the
light -- correct?

Any advantages or disadvantages of Jobo over tray-development?

Is there a better way to go than Jobo?

I've been using a simple Unicolor drum and roller. Cost me $30 on eBay.
Works fine.

Same here. No need for more expensive hardware in this department so far
as I
can see. Try it; it's cheap.

Another option is ABS and PVC pipe parts from the local home improvement
store. If you're build a few of them, you can build tanks with daylight
fill and dump for 8x10 (3" pipe size) for about $6-$8 each; these are
for inversion agitation and hand processing, but could probably also be
used on a roller base if you already have one or build one of your own.

--
I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
-- E. J. Fudd, 1954

Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer
Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm
Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm

Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
and don't expect them to be perfect.

David Nebenzahl wrote in message ...
On 8/4/2004 6:17 AM Michael Scarpitti spake thus:

Marco Milazzo wrote in message
. ..

I want to do 4 X 5 and 8 X 10 Large negs. I don't have a darkroom with
running water, but I do have a (not completely dark) bathroom. I assume
I can load Jobo tanks in the dark and do all other processing in the
light -- correct?

Any advantages or disadvantages of Jobo over tray-development?

Is there a better way to go than Jobo?

TIA, Marco

Hangers are the best way to develop sheet film.


You obviously know nothing about this, Waffle Boy. Get your ass back over to
the Pretentious 35mm Leica Shooters department and stay there.


Hangers are the best way to develop sheet film, moron.

David Nebenzahl wrote in message ...
On 8/4/2004 6:17 AM Michael Scarpitti spake thus:

Marco Milazzo wrote in message
. ..

I want to do 4 X 5 and 8 X 10 Large negs. I don't have a darkroom with
running water, but I do have a (not completely dark) bathroom. I assume
I can load Jobo tanks in the dark and do all other processing in the
light -- correct?

Any advantages or disadvantages of Jobo over tray-development?

Is there a better way to go than Jobo?

TIA, Marco

Hangers are the best way to develop sheet film.


You obviously know nothing about this, Waffle Boy. Get your ass back over to
the Pretentious 35mm Leica Shooters department and stay there.


Hangers are the best way to develop sheet film, moron.