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Canon 30D + Lightroom question
I was shooting an old cemetery last week and set my 30D to use the
Monochrome picture style. The preview on the camera showed the monochrome image. When I imported it into Lightroom, the image initially came up monochrome and then converted to color by itself. Is there something I missed or can anyone explain it? Thanks Rob |
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Canon 30D + Lightroom question
Scubabix wrote:
I was shooting an old cemetery last week and set my 30D to use the Monochrome picture style. The preview on the camera showed the monochrome image. When I imported it into Lightroom, the image initially came up monochrome and then converted to color by itself. Is there something I missed or can anyone explain it? Thanks Rob If you shot in RAW, you'll have to apply as-shot settings (I believe) to see it as Black & White. Having it set to Black & white should have no effect on the RAW file... If you shot in jpeg using B&W, I believe you'd see what you expect. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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Canon 30D + Lightroom question
In article , Mark²
wrote: Scubabix wrote: I was shooting an old cemetery last week and set my 30D to use the Monochrome picture style. The preview on the camera showed the monochrome image. When I imported it into Lightroom, the image initially came up monochrome and then converted to color by itself. Is there something I missed or can anyone explain it? Thanks Rob If you shot in RAW, you'll have to apply as-shot settings (I believe) to see it as Black & White. Having it set to Black & white should have no effect on the RAW file... If you shot in jpeg using B&W, I believe you'd see what you expect. It's always better (IMO) to shoot you B&W in color anyway - for two reasons. First off, you have more ability to adjust your B&W conversion later in LR, Aperture, or PS than you have in-camera (so you can play with what various B&W filters would have looked like, etc - and Alien Skin Exposure does a pretty good job of simulating several differnt kinds of IR film from a color image, too). There are LOTS of different ways to convert a B&W, the least desireable of which (again, IMO) is to just desaturate it to greyscale. Secondly, you might just someday decide that you want that image in color - so shoot it in color and convert it later. I'm referring to if you are shooting .jpg, of course. As Mark³ explained, a raw file has all the raw data (hence the name) so you always have it. It doesn't know B&W or color from beans - it's merely a collection of very lightly processed sensor data. The converter program (in this case, Lightroom for you) is what actually makes sense of all that data. The image that displays on your camera's screen is just a quickie .jpg thumbnail generated by the camera based upon your settings, which is why it showed up B&W and the imported file didn't - if you look at the thumbnail of the file on your HD (if you haven't altered it), I'll bet it shows B&W, too. .. -- You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. -- Charles A. Beard |
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Canon 30D + Lightroom question
Ken Lucke wrote:
In article , Mark² wrote: Scubabix wrote: I was shooting an old cemetery last week and set my 30D to use the Monochrome picture style. The preview on the camera showed the monochrome image. When I imported it into Lightroom, the image initially came up monochrome and then converted to color by itself. Is there something I missed or can anyone explain it? Thanks Rob If you shot in RAW, you'll have to apply as-shot settings (I believe) to see it as Black & White. Having it set to Black & white should have no effect on the RAW file... If you shot in jpeg using B&W, I believe you'd see what you expect. It's always better (IMO) to shoot you B&W in color anyway - for two reasons. First off, you have more ability to adjust your B&W conversion later in LR, Aperture, or PS than you have in-camera (so you can play with what various B&W filters would have looked like, etc - and Alien Skin Exposure does a pretty good job of simulating several differnt kinds of IR film from a color image, too). There are LOTS of different ways to convert a B&W, the least desireable of which (again, IMO) is to just desaturate it to greyscale. Secondly, you might just someday decide that you want that image in color - so shoot it in color and convert it later. I'm referring to if you are shooting .jpg, of course. As Mark³ explained, a raw file has all the raw data (hence the name) so you always have it. It doesn't know B&W or color from beans - it's merely a collection of very lightly processed sensor data. The converter program (in this case, Lightroom for you) is what actually makes sense of all that data. The image that displays on your camera's screen is just a quickie .jpg thumbnail generated by the camera based upon your settings, which is why it showed up B&W and the imported file didn't - if you look at the thumbnail of the file on your HD (if you haven't altered it), I'll bet it shows B&W, too. Lightroom has AMAZING black & white adjustment features. Truly amazing, as it gives you total control over "color" even after it shows only grey scale. It keeps the color values intact while you play around with the equivalent of red filters, green, etc...just as though they were on your lens at the time. If anyone lacks Lightroom, here's a great little video explaining how to get the desired B&W effects in Photoshop: http://www.dcmag.co.uk/Video_Mono_vi...okZSIBw.ht ml -Mark² -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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Canon 30D + Lightroom question
"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
... Ken Lucke wrote: In article , Mark² wrote: Scubabix wrote: I was shooting an old cemetery last week and set my 30D to use the Monochrome picture style. The preview on the camera showed the monochrome image. When I imported it into Lightroom, the image initially came up monochrome and then converted to color by itself. Is there something I missed or can anyone explain it? Thanks Rob If you shot in RAW, you'll have to apply as-shot settings (I believe) to see it as Black & White. Having it set to Black & white should have no effect on the RAW file... If you shot in jpeg using B&W, I believe you'd see what you expect. It's always better (IMO) to shoot you B&W in color anyway - for two reasons. First off, you have more ability to adjust your B&W conversion later in LR, Aperture, or PS than you have in-camera (so you can play with what various B&W filters would have looked like, etc - and Alien Skin Exposure does a pretty good job of simulating several differnt kinds of IR film from a color image, too). There are LOTS of different ways to convert a B&W, the least desireable of which (again, IMO) is to just desaturate it to greyscale. Secondly, you might just someday decide that you want that image in color - so shoot it in color and convert it later. I'm referring to if you are shooting .jpg, of course. As Mark³ explained, a raw file has all the raw data (hence the name) so you always have it. It doesn't know B&W or color from beans - it's merely a collection of very lightly processed sensor data. The converter program (in this case, Lightroom for you) is what actually makes sense of all that data. The image that displays on your camera's screen is just a quickie .jpg thumbnail generated by the camera based upon your settings, which is why it showed up B&W and the imported file didn't - if you look at the thumbnail of the file on your HD (if you haven't altered it), I'll bet it shows B&W, too. Lightroom has AMAZING black & white adjustment features. Truly amazing, as it gives you total control over "color" even after it shows only grey scale. It keeps the color values intact while you play around with the equivalent of red filters, green, etc...just as though they were on your lens at the time. If anyone lacks Lightroom, here's a great little video explaining how to get the desired B&W effects in Photoshop: http://www.dcmag.co.uk/Video_Mono_vi...okZSIBw.ht ml -Mark² -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson Thanks Ken and Mark. I see what you mean about shooting in color than adjusting for B&W in LR. I'm still learning with my 30D and was trying to use the picture styles. I'll keep your suggestions in mind next time. Rob |
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