And The Loser Is...

On 2018-02-05 19:51, RichA wrote:
On Monday, 5 February 2018 12:34:55 UTC-5, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2018-02-03 19:08, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 22:09:18 UTC-5, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 18:40:34 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Friday, 2 February 2018 01:19:30 UTC-5, android wrote:
...the compact digital camera...

https://www.canonnews.com/the-2017-cipa-results-are-in


Americans keep bringing up the technological rear.

Crap.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

They created the working internet (if not invented) and now slog along at 25MB/s while Asia and some of Europe is at a gig.

Look at Speedtest's compiled results for fixed service (ie: not mobile).

Average speed:

Singapore (1st) is 166 Mb/s.
US (8th) is 83.2 Mb/s.
Canada (16th) is 77 Mb/s.

All of western Europe is slower than the US, except Sweden.

You do realize that is pure fiction, right? WHERE is 83.2Mb/s available? And for how much? I average about 23-25mb/s and pay $80/month.

I posted the link to Speedtest who posted the data.

You do realize what "average" means and how Speedtest works, right? ...

er, never mind...

I _get_ 132 Mb/s consistently on a 120 Mb/s plan even if the speedtest
site is Tokyo or Paris (etc.) from Montreal. $82/mo (tax in).

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“When it is all said and done, there are approximately 94 million
full-time workers in private industry paying taxes to support 102
million non-workers and 21 million government workers.
In what world does this represent a strong job market?�
..Jim Quinn

On 05/02/2018 19:45, RJH wrote:
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UK: I suspect that's something to do with it - I think 100Mbps is there
if people are willing to pay. Which as it happens I do - £30/month for
basic landline and mobile, and 100Mbps internet.

I suppose 1000Mbs would be nice, but hardly necessary. I can download
1GB through a VPN in a couple of minutes which seems fine.

GBP £34/mo (US $48) for 200 Mbps down, 12 Mbps up. VirginMedia HFC
(hybrid fibre cable), co-ax to the house from fibre at the end of the
street. Up is a little limiting at times, down is 200 Mbps except
during the evening (20:00). I frequently download 700 MB files (weather
satellite data), and a couple of times a week a full Win-10 install (~4
GB, I'm on the Windows Insider program. No local fibre from other
suppliers yet - I would likely change if there were a competitive offer.

That's Internet /only/ though. It seems that Virgin don't offer
anything alike a combined phone/mobile/Internet package. Produces more
income, I suppose!

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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 2/5/2018 7:24 PM, RJH wrote:
On 05/02/2018 23:23, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2018-02-05 14:45, RJH wrote:
On 05/02/2018 17:54, android wrote:
On 2018-02-05 17:34:45 +0000, Alan Browne said:

On 2018-02-03 19:08, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 22:09:18 UTC-5, Eric StevensÂ* wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 18:40:34 -0800 (PST), RichA

wrote:

On Friday, 2 February 2018 01:19:30 UTC-5, androidÂ* wrote:
...the compact digital camera...

https://www.canonnews.com/the-2017-cipa-results-are-in


Americans keep bringing up the technological rear.

Crap.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

They created the working internet (if not invented) and now slog
along at 25MB/s while Asia and some of Europe is at a gig.

Look at Speedtest's compiled results for fixed service (ie: not
mobile).

Average speed:

Â*Â*Â*Â*Singapore (1st) is 166 Mb/s.
Â*Â*Â*Â*US (8th) is 83.2 Mb/s.
Â*Â*Â*Â*Canada (16th) is 77 Mb/s.

All of western Europe is slower than the US, except Sweden.
Denmark, The Netherlands and Switzerland are essentially tied with
the US.

http://www.speedtest.net/global-index

You get what you pay for. I have a 50-100 line and is oki with that
since I don't stream much, but you can get 500-1000 Mb/s if you pay
trice... The difference in average between Sweden and the US is
minimal actually and I guess that the Britts are just chepoos that
don't wanna punny up!

UK: I suspect that's something to do with it - I think 100Mbps is
there if people are willing to pay. Which as it happens I do -
£30/month for basic landline and mobile, and 100Mbps internet.

That's astoundingly cheap.


This is similar to my deal:

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broa...respeedboost/v

They chop/change every few months.


I suppose 1000Mbs would be nice, but hardly necessary. I can download
1GB through a VPN in a couple of minutes which seems fine.

I pay CAD $82 for 120 Mb/s.Â*Â*Â* Speedtest consistently shows it at 135
Mb/s even when testing to London/Paris/Tokyo.


Actually, I'm only getting 60Mb/s right now - so maybe you don't pay
that much more than me.



I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

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PeterN

In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.

On 2/7/2018 4:32 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.


There are only 2 ISP s allowed where I live. Verizon & Optimum. Both are
lying leeches. To get what I want online is too much of a PITA. If you
know an easy and reliable way, please tell. I looked at sling, but they
could not provide what I want.

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PeterN

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 00:08:58 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 2/7/2018 4:32 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.


There are only 2 ISP s allowed where I live. Verizon & Optimum. Both are
lying leeches. To get what I want online is too much of a PITA. If you
know an easy and reliable way, please tell. I looked at sling, but they
could not provide what I want.

Try Playstation Vue, Hulu, Youtube TV. There are others, and all have
multiple choices. They tend to have the same channels in their basic
service, and as you go up in pricing you should be able to find
everything you want, or you can just add specific channels to the
basic service. And I like Vudu for movies on demand. Amazon Prime also
has its uses, especially if you order lots of stuff online - they give
you free shipping.

All you need is a streaming box, Roku or something. And an OTA
antenna, if one will work where you live. On-topic: I think Roku has a
DLNA service built in now, so you can look at your photos and videos
on your TV.

In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.

There are only 2 ISP s allowed where I live. Verizon & Optimum. Both are
lying leeches.

true, but that doesn't affect getting content.

To get what I want online is too much of a PITA. If you
know an easy and reliable way, please tell. I looked at sling, but they
could not provide what I want.

what content do you want?

have you looked at roku or appletv ?

On 08/02/2018 05:38, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 00:08:58 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 2/7/2018 4:32 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.


There are only 2 ISP s allowed where I live. Verizon & Optimum. Both are
lying leeches. To get what I want online is too much of a PITA. If you
know an easy and reliable way, please tell. I looked at sling, but they
could not provide what I want.

Try Playstation Vue, Hulu, Youtube TV. There are others, and all have
multiple choices. They tend to have the same channels in their basic
service, and as you go up in pricing you should be able to find
everything you want, or you can just add specific channels to the
basic service. And I like Vudu for movies on demand. Amazon Prime also
has its uses, especially if you order lots of stuff online - they give
you free shipping.

All you need is a streaming box, Roku or something. And an OTA
antenna, if one will work where you live. On-topic: I think Roku has a
DLNA service built in now, so you can look at your photos and videos
on your TV.


It really does depend on your needs I think. I just use the UK streaming
services - mainly the BBC iPlayer. And Mubi for films (but they're a bit
arty for me so I may cancel). But I watch very little TV - didn't have a
licence until recently, bought when it became required for the iPlayer.

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Cheers, Rob

On 2/8/2018 12:38 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 00:08:58 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 2/7/2018 4:32 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.


There are only 2 ISP s allowed where I live. Verizon & Optimum. Both are
lying leeches. To get what I want online is too much of a PITA. If you
know an easy and reliable way, please tell. I looked at sling, but they
could not provide what I want.

Try Playstation Vue, Hulu, Youtube TV. There are others, and all have
multiple choices. They tend to have the same channels in their basic
service, and as you go up in pricing you should be able to find
everything you want, or you can just add specific channels to the
basic service. And I like Vudu for movies on demand. Amazon Prime also
has its uses, especially if you order lots of stuff online - they give
you free shipping.

Thanks for your response. I will continue my research.



All you need is a streaming box, Roku or something. And an OTA
antenna, if one will work where you live. On-topic: I think Roku has a
DLNA service built in now, so you can look at your photos and videos
on your TV.


OTA would not work for me. Indoor reception is terrible, and use of an
outdoor antenna is not permitted. What I am looking for is to get basic
Internet service with local channels. I would then use a service that
allows me to pick only the stations I watch. I have zero interest in the
movies, except for some old classics.


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PeterN

On 2/8/2018 1:19 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

I am limited to two providers. I currently have 75Mb. it's part of a
bundle. If I switch providers I will get 200Mbs, and save about $30. per
month. My problem is the bundling. I haven't haven't watched any movies
for years. I only watch certain cable channels, and they are bundled
with the movies channels. The only reason I haven't switched is that the
other provider keeps changing the bundles.

cut the cord and get it online.

There are only 2 ISP s allowed where I live. Verizon & Optimum. Both are
lying leeches.

true, but that doesn't affect getting content.

To get what I want online is too much of a PITA. If you
know an easy and reliable way, please tell. I looked at sling, but they
could not provide what I want.

what content do you want?

have you looked at roku or appletv ?

Thanks, I looked at them. The do not have all of the channels I watch.

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PeterN