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Old October 2nd 09, 04:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
james
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Is there a way to extract a black and white image from a color digital slr
with higher resolution than the color version?

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Old October 2nd 09, 05:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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james wrote:
Is there a way to extract a black and white image from a color digital
slr with higher resolution than the color version?


I think so - I believe that some RAW software can do this,
assuming the colour data is from a Bayer matrix.

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Old October 2nd 09, 05:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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james wrote:
Is there a way to extract a black and white image from a color digital slr
with higher resolution than the color version?


No.

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Old October 2nd 09, 05:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2009-10-02 08:51:45 -0700, "james" said:

Is there a way to extract a black and white image from a color digital
slr with higher resolution than the color version?


The basic answer is no.
However this begs the question, why do you need higher resolution of
you original image?

Certainly making a good B&W conversion in CS using color filters in an
adjustment layer, or using channels rather than gray scale or
desaturation, can give the illusion of enhanced contrast and detail.

If your intention is to produce a massive print then look to Genuine Fractals
http://www.ononesoftware.com/product...e_fractals.php

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Old October 2nd 09, 08:53 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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james wrote:

Is there a way to extract a black and white image from a color digital
slr with higher resolution than the color version?


No but some have tried chemically removing the bayer filter for b&w with
better low light performance and I think that takes the microlenses off
too, and if you took off the antialiasing filter, it would look a lot
sharper but have jaggies & moire pattern problems.

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Old October 4th 09, 05:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
John McWilliams
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Savageduck wrote:
On 2009-10-02 08:51:45 -0700, "james" said:

Is there a way to extract a black and white image from a color digital
slr with higher resolution than the color version?


The basic answer is no.
However this begs the question, why do you need higher resolution of you
original image?

Certainly making a good B&W conversion in CS using color filters in an
adjustment layer, or using channels rather than gray scale or
desaturation, can give the illusion of enhanced contrast and detail.

If your intention is to produce a massive print then look to Genuine
Fractals
http://www.ononesoftware.com/product...e_fractals.php


If you have a recent version of Photoshop, it can be used to both make a
fine conversion to B+W and up rez to make larger prints than the pixels
might suggest.

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Old October 9th 09, 05:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:38:15 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

However this begs the question,


No it does not!
Go learn what "begs the question" really means.

Hint: Unless you're referring to someone's logic, it is incorrect
usage (stupid media personalities notwithstanding).
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Old October 9th 09, 06:37 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2009-10-09 09:19:22 -0700, jls said:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:38:15 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

However this begs the question,


No it does not!
Go learn what "begs the question" really means.

Hint: Unless you're referring to someone's logic, it is incorrect
usage (stupid media personalities notwithstanding).


....and your point is?
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Old October 9th 09, 11:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Jeff R.
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Savageduck wrote:
On 2009-10-09 09:19:22 -0700, jls said:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:38:15 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

However this begs the question,


No it does not!
Go learn what "begs the question" really means.

Hint: Unless you're referring to someone's logic, it is incorrect
usage (stupid media personalities notwithstanding).


...and your point is?


....a very good one.

That the language is disintegrating. We can either sit back and observe, or
complain about it.

They are our two alternates.
The language is being totally decimated.
I have no time for disinterested armature linguists who don't give a
tinker's cuss for accuracy, and except such errors, loosing site of the
original meaning.

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(there. I'm done)

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Old October 10th 09, 12:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_4_]
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On 2009-10-09 15:57:06 -0700, "Jeff R." said:

Savageduck wrote:
On 2009-10-09 09:19:22 -0700, jls said:

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:38:15 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

However this begs the question,

No it does not!
Go learn what "begs the question" really means.

Hint: Unless you're referring to someone's logic, it is incorrect
usage (stupid media personalities notwithstanding).


...and your point is?


...a very good one.

That the language is disintegrating. We can either sit back and
observe, or complain about it.

They are our two alternates.
The language is being totally decimated.
I have no time for disinterested armature linguists who don't give a
tinker's cuss for accuracy, and except such errors, loosing site of the
original meaning.


Be careful of the position you take, your armature is showing.


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Savageduck

 




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