is it a forgone conclusion...

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:30:38 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan"
wrote:

"Steven Kefford" ""keff.antispam\"@ f2s.com" wrote

Absolutley. I am one of those who has gone from digital to LF. Well not
totally true, as I still do digital, and have not yet exposed a single
sheet of LF, as I have only had it a few days. Film is still well and
truly alive, and will be so for a considerable time to come.

Yea! A convert! Ring the Bells! Glory to the Trinity! Praise Allah!
Slaughter a goat (er, can we make that an Angus, a nice young tender one...).


feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,

Slaughtering an Argus might be more appropriate ...

regards,
--le
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:53:17 -0800, Max
wrote:

....

PS - Pumas are shoes. They were really popular in the eighties and now
crowds of young folks are wearing them again. "Vintage" has somehow
become a marketable term for new clothing; not sure how that works

....


feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,

Uh-oh. My geezerhood is no longer incipient. The
eighties have become vintage. (The
nineteen-eighties...).

regards,
--le
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:34:57 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan"
wrote:
....
On the consumables front: the price of ink and paper is _not_ subject to
Moore's law. The relative parity of ink-jet and silver prints will
hold.
....


feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,

Why does that stuff cost so much? What's in it, anyway?
Silver???

regards,
--le
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email:
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"Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:34:57 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan"
wrote:
...
On the consumables front: the price of ink and paper is _not_ subject to
Moore's law. The relative parity of ink-jet and silver prints will
hold.

feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,

Why does that stuff cost so much? What's in it, anyway?

We have a monster printer that takes half-pint ink tanks. They are _cheap_
compared to the tiny home and office printer cartridges. The price is all
about packaging and the marketplace.

jjs wrote:
: "Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote in message
: ...
: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:34:57 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan"
: wrote:
: ...
: On the consumables front: the price of ink and paper is _not_ subject to
: Moore's law. The relative parity of ink-jet and silver prints will
: hold.

: feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,
:
: Why does that stuff cost so much? What's in it, anyway?

: We have a monster printer that takes half-pint ink tanks. They are _cheap_
: compared to the tiny home and office printer cartridges. The price is all
: about packaging and the marketplace.


The price of the ink for SOHO (small office, home) is mostly profit for the manufacturers.

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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

Stefan Patric wrote:
: On Thursday 24 February 2005 20:29, Frank Pittel wrote:

: Steven Kefford ""keff.antispam\"@ f2s.com" wrote:
: : Max wrote:
: : ...
: : A friend of mine won't stop talking about how film is dead and how
: : much he loves his digital and how I need to buy one. But why? For
: : now, at
: : ...
:
: : Why do digital evangelists have to prophesise that film is dead? Do
: : they
: : need some extra justification for their switch to digital? Why
: : can't
: : they be content with their digital, and let others make there own
: : decisions?
:
: I think that most of them are trying to justify going digital to
: themselves.

: No. They REALLY do believe digital produces better quality images than
: film. (But believing doesn't make it so.) And anyone, who isn't a
: believer -- say, Hallelujah! -- is a poor, unfortunate, misguided, dumb
: as a post soul, who must be saved or be lost in photo hell forever.
: (Another Hallelujah, please.) Such is the way of the arrogant:
: They're always right and everyone else is wrong, irrespective of the
: facts. Fanatics have a tremendous capacity to explain away the truth,
: if it doesn't fit their ideology.

I still think the reason for most of the evangilism in the film newsgroups
is based on insecurity of the poster. I know a number of people that have
and use digital cameras (myself included). A number of them have stopped
using film camera and are completely digital. Most of them are secure in
their reasons for going digital and will only talk about their reasons
if the subject is brought up by someone else.
--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

"Max" wrote

PS - Pumas are shoes. They were really popular in the eighties and now
crowds of young folks are wearing them again.

Strange, usually kids are more comfortable with their grandparents' fads.

"Vintage" has somehow become a marketable term for new clothing

1980's are 'vintage'? No, the 1880's are vintage -- I see corsets are
making a comeback, can bustles and hoop skirts be far behind?

Hip-hop in a hoop-skirt: it just might sell.

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In article ,
Lloyd Erlick Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote:

feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,

Why does that stuff cost so much? What's in it, anyway?
Silver???

If your talking about ink, there's a most interesting article
in "Great Output" regarding the relative cost. Something
on the order of $34.00 an ounce,...which is a lot more than petrol
or Dom Perigon.

It's mainly because thats how the companies come out with sell "new" and
great printers every 6 months,....they depend on ink sales to fund the
research.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
Frank Pittel wrote:


The price of the ink for SOHO (small office, home) is mostly profit for the
manufacturers.

Not so,... its about funding the research required to make the correct
ink work with the correct printer.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

hahahahaha yeah I guess. I'm in my early twenties and my childhood has
become cool again when most of it should've just been left where it was
found. I do like my pumas though; they're mostly worn out.

As for my grandparent's fads . . . I don't know if I'm willing to slip
into a zoot suit just yet. I've not seen too many corsets out on the
streets. They're more of an undergarment. Are push-up bras too far
behind though? Also there are innumerable kinds of corset-like tops out
there.

hahahaha I've just about had it with this thread. It's gotten way out of
hand! First we're talking about digital, then magnetic tape, then pumas,
and now corsets.

- max


Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
"Max" wrote


PS - Pumas are shoes. They were really popular in the eighties and now
crowds of young folks are wearing them again.


Strange, usually kids are more comfortable with their grandparents' fads.


"Vintage" has somehow become a marketable term for new clothing


1980's are 'vintage'? No, the 1880's are vintage -- I see corsets are
making a comeback, can bustles and hoop skirts be far behind?

Hip-hop in a hoop-skirt: it just might sell.