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summary of Kodak downfall
On 02/12/2014 11:20 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
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Dale wrote:
what if you applied the laws of supply and demand to labor? the work less people want gets paid more the work people want more gets paid less no harm done to meritocracy, more meritocracy since the demand of labor is satisfied better resulting in a more plausible production model, and more labor and wages giving demand for products and service for instance, a coal miner gets paid more than a schmoozer not applying laws of supply and demand to labor violates capitalism we do not have capitalism, we have only prestige, its like saying your title is more important than your pay, its like saying titles are more important than capitalism This is off topic. -- Regards, Martin Leese E-mail: LID Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ |
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On 2/12/2014 3:41 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:17:47 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: Long after the Mavicas were of little interest to the ordinary photographer, body shops were buying used ones for this purpose. mavicas were never of much interest to much of anyone. Let me guess...you took a flight on which there were people going to the CAA (California Autobody Association) annual meeting and did a survey in Coach of whether or not they ever used Mavicas. Stop picking on nospam. He thrives on it. -- PeterN |
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On 2/13/2014 3:51 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:27:24 -0500, PeterN wrote: On 2/12/2014 3:41 PM, Tony Cooper wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:17:47 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: Long after the Mavicas were of little interest to the ordinary photographer, body shops were buying used ones for this purpose. mavicas were never of much interest to much of anyone. Let me guess...you took a flight on which there were people going to the CAA (California Autobody Association) annual meeting and did a survey in Coach of whether or not they ever used Mavicas. Stop picking on nospam. He thrives on it. If nospam wrote that the Nikon Rebel t3 was a good camera, and it was pointed out to him that Canon is the maker of the Rebel t3, nospam would whine about nitpicking and Jonas would bitch about semantic trolling. Both would wail that we should know what he meant. And they would be right, since language is not a means of communication. -- PeterN |
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: If nospam wrote that the Nikon Rebel t3 was a good camera, and it was pointed out to him that Canon is the maker of the Rebel t3, nospam would whine about nitpicking and Jonas would bitch about semantic trolling. Both would wail that we should know what he meant. wrong. nor would i make such a colossal error anyway. |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: The majority of DSLRs on the market use the APS film format. Sorry, I did not realize I was dealing with someone who is so literal minded that he thinks a DSLR uses film. I've already posted an article, which you have ignored, which gives the dimensions of the APS formats and asks: "Which format? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Photo_System "The film is 24 mm wide, and has three image formats: * H for "High Definition" (30.2 × 16.7 mm; aspect ratio 16:9; 4×7" print) * C for "Classic" (25.1 × 16.7 mm; aspect ratio 3:2; 4×6" print) * P for "Panoramic" (30.2 × 9.5 mm; aspect ratio 3:1; 4×11" print) The "C" and "P" formats are formed by cropping. " What is there there that can definitively be shown to be the ancestor of the format used by DSLRs?" I can't see any connection between formats used by DSLRs and APS. There may be one but it is not immediately obvious to me. there isn't any connection. the only reason early dslrs had smaller sensors was cost, not because they wanted to follow in the footsteps of aps, a failed format. sensors were not particularly cheap back then, so they had to be smaller for the product to be viable. it turned out that the format was good enough. note that there are 1.3x, 1.5x, 1.6x, 1.7x and 2x crop sensor sizes, with some cameras having a choice of more than just one. |
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On 2/10/2014 7:17 PM, Dale wrote:
Kodak failed to leverage a giant imaging media market into emerging hardware and software markets and new media markets failed to leverage hardware and software into new media failed to leverage existing media into new hardware and software failed to develop emerging open systems hardware and software cheap labor competition cannot be an excuse, they had NAFTA and were making consumer digital cameras in Mexico, this could have been invested in more wasn't a lack of capital, they were Fortune 26 at one time wasn't a lack of intellectual property, in fact they failed to leverage the intellectual property they had in time so why? Rochester's nickname is "smug town" we are talking about entertainment technology for the most part, and entertainment oriented careers, if this was not a market of expendable income, the downfall would never have happened for the record I worked in R&D as a systems engineer the problem was the people existing connection circles prevailed over performance and even organizational responsibility there were all kinds of groups vying too do the new stuff film had the money, film people got the careers remember this is entertainment technology careers for the most part and entertaining work as opposed to necessity work, fun prevailed too the last job I had was hybrid systems integration on the film side we couldn't have the word integration in the name of our group, since there was an equipment group was responsible for integration,, but we got the budgets and careers, while the equipment people had "jobs" doing not much if it weren't an entertainment business that didn't really matter too much, in much cases, the money and performance would have prevailed they had NAFTA and a consumer camera plant in Mexico, they were right on time I tell you, it was not an accounting problem, or a strategic problem, it was a corporate culture problem there is your business case study want some verification? they tried George Fisher from Motorola as CEO with a BIG pay to shake things up, he left they tried Dan Carp from equipment side to shake up film probably, I don't know where he went might want to hear what these two have to say about their experience this was a publicly held company, public means socialism whether you think so or not, and the public suffered, there needs to be better law for socialized business private companies can set pecking orders however you want socialized companies have a trust, and pecking orders other than by performance should be called anti-trust, in fact I can't think of any other anti-trust that is worse corporate culture in USA has to change because a service industry economy lasts as long as EXISTING money, to have NEW money you need a manufacturing economy, you need fair trade and not free trade, just the right amount of Nationalism, another trust issue for socialized companies fair trade in USA/UN/WTO has to consider worker's rights and environmental investments, etc. I am not a CEO but I bet if you had a circle of accountants instead a circle of cronies things would work, just a little fascism is all you need let luxuries to competition, no socialism, and you will eventually have the demand for production, and eventually the production for a manufacturing economy, this will be held in place by the invisible hand of fascism if you legislate fair trade and not free trade socialize needs of the people and the commodity markets of those needs will eventually invest in returns, this will be held in place by the invisible hand of fascism if you legislate free trade here you don't need to enforce any thing free, in fact people will do whatever they want unless you give them something better to do, there should be anarchists rights to break the law with the understanding that not only do you face possible governmental societal repercussions, you enter the wild and may have repercussions there that are outside the realm of government so how do you enforce fair, one legislation kept in place and evolving as nations bond and if the laws are so complex that only the legal system can study their books of code and case law to use them, then only the legal system can be held accountable, ignorance is an excuse, if government doesn't teach law, they enter the wild themselves for people they cross this thread isn't from me ... -- Mystery - https://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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