Fair value for Beseler 4x5 enlarger

Hello:

What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's
an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No
damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good
condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor
drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red
filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon
lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger.

Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance.

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"C.A. Decker" wrote:

Hello:

What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's
an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No
damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good
condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor
drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red
filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon
lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger.

Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance.


Between two thirds & one half the original selling price if in good
to excellent condition.
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Gregory W Blank wrote:
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"C.A. Decker" wrote:

Hello:

What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's
an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No
damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good
condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor
drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red
filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon
lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger.

Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance.


Between two thirds & one half the original selling price if in good
to excellent condition.

How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in
today's digital world it's worth less then that.

Nick

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Nick Zentena wrote:

How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in
today's digital world it's worth less then that.
Nick

Junk is junk. If the enlarger cost 2,000 ....10 years ago
and looks brand new,......well it would be fair to get
1,000 don't ya think. Just because its fair does not mean they
will get the asking price. Meerly that ista fair asking price
reflective if the original price. Now if the item is a 5 on a scale of
10 then maybe a 1/4 of the price would be fair. Digital or not someone
who appreciates a good working order item will still appreciate getting a
fair deal. Try etting that from a photo dealer and you my as well
give it to them. What it boils down to is look at the price that was paid and realistically
assess the condition, and that will give you at least a good place to start.
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Gregory W Blank wrote:
In article ,
Nick Zentena wrote:

How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in
today's digital world it's worth less then that.
Nick

Junk is junk. If the enlarger cost 2,000 ....10 years ago
and looks brand new,......well it would be fair to get
1,000 don't ya think. Just because its fair does not mean they
will get the asking price. Meerly that ista fair asking price
reflective if the original price. Now if the item is a 5 on a scale of
10 then maybe a 1/4 of the price would be fair. Digital or not someone
who appreciates a good working order item will still appreciate getting a
fair deal. Try etting that from a photo dealer and you my as well
give it to them. What it boils down to is look at the price that was paid and realistically
assess the condition, and that will give you at least a good place to start.


My Beseler 4x5 came from a dealer. One of the best in town. It's not mint
but good enough it came with a 6 month warranty. No lenses but almost every
carrier made and a bunch of lensboards. 2 years ago it set me back
something around $250 US. When I wanted a colour head I instead bought an
almost NIB Durst 4x5 for $300. 4x5 enlargers just aren't selling for big
money today.

Nick

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Nick Zentena wrote:

My Beseler 4x5 came from a dealer. One of the best in town. It's not mint
but good enough it came with a 6 month warranty. No lenses but almost every
carrier made and a bunch of lensboards. 2 years ago it set me back
something around $250 US. When I wanted a colour head I instead bought an
almost NIB Durst 4x5 for $300. 4x5 enlargers just aren't selling for big
money today.
Nick

Yes I understand what you are saying.

My point was/is what is fair is not
what you ultimately may get for the
item.
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Gregory W Blank wrote:
In article ,
Nick Zentena wrote:

How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in
today's digital world it's worth less then that.
Nick

Junk is junk. If the enlarger cost 2,000 ....10 years ago
and looks brand new,......well it would be fair to get
1,000 don't ya think. Just because its fair does not mean they
will get the asking price. Meerly that ista fair asking price
reflective if the original price. Now if the item is a 5 on a scale of
10 then maybe a 1/4 of the price would be fair. Digital or not someone
who appreciates a good working order item will still appreciate getting
a
fair deal. Try etting that from a photo dealer and you my as well
give it to them. What it boils down to is look at the price that was
paid and realistically
assess the condition, and that will give you at least a good place to
start.


My Beseler 4x5 came from a dealer. One of the best in town. It's not
mint
but good enough it came with a 6 month warranty. No lenses but almost
every
carrier made and a bunch of lensboards. 2 years ago it set me back
something around $250 US. When I wanted a colour head I instead bought an
almost NIB Durst 4x5 for $300. 4x5 enlargers just aren't selling for big
money today.

Nick

It's the shipping that gets ya!

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I'd say something around $200 would be fair. A Beseler MXII enlarger with
two El Nikkor lenses and negative carriers pretty much the same as those
included here recently sold on e bay for $255. I believe the MXII is a newer
enlarger than the M. A Beseler MCRX enlarger (also newer than the M I
believe) with a $200 opening price attracted no bids at all but I don't
think it had as many accessories as yours. I'm not sure there's much of a
market for an enlarger as old as the M with old, less than top-of-the line
lenses like the Componons so $200 might be on the high side of fair.

"C.A. Decker" wrote in message
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Hello:

What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's
an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No
damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good
condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor
drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red
filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon
lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger.

Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance.

C.A. Decker wrote:

Hello:

What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's
an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No
damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good
condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor
drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red
filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon
lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger.



I'd separate it, sell the lenses, the carriers and then the enlarger. There
is more likely to be a market for the carriers to different people etc.
Maybe keep one of the carriers to sell with the enlarger, like the 6X9 one?


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Stacey

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:14:59 -0400, Stacey wrote:

C.A. Decker wrote:

Hello:

What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's
an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No
damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good
condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor
drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red
filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon
lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger.



I'd separate it, sell the lenses, the carriers and then the enlarger. There
is more likely to be a market for the carriers to different people etc.
Maybe keep one of the carriers to sell with the enlarger, like the 6X9 one?


Good point. The LeafScan 45 takes Beseler
film holders. G.


rafe b.
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