Have you bought your grossly overpriced, battery-suckingApple toy watch?

On Tue, 05 May 2015 15:07:15 -0400, Mort wrote:

Sandman wrote:
In article , Mort wrote:

nospam:
how is your phone going to track your heart rate

I use a low-tech, battery-free method. I put a finger onto the pulse
at a wrist. It works every time.

Ah, and the hand whose wrist you're testing is using the phone to input this
continuously during a track run to the health app? Well, that's one way to do it
:-D


Why? Why? Why in the world should healthy people track their heart
rates? The rates are quite variable to begin with, and oftentimes
change with various activities.

Mort Linder

You sort of answered your own question. Athletes, which admittedly
most people aren't, need to continuously see what % of max heart rate
they are training at. If the Apple watch is as accurate as the
chest-band type monitors, that's one less thing they need to use when
training.

Considering the sedentary nature of so many Americans, it would seem
somewhat pointless around these parts.

On 05/05/2015 20:07, Mort wrote:
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Why? Why? Why in the world should healthy people track their heart
rates? The rates are quite variable to begin with, and oftentimes
change with various activities.

Mort Linder

Until you know what is normal (for you) - the range of normal - you
don't know what is abnormal.

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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

In article , Mort wrote:

nospam:
how is your phone going to track your heart rate

Mort:
I use a low-tech, battery-free method. I put a finger onto the
pulse at a wrist. It works every time.

Sandman:
Ah, and the hand whose wrist you're testing is using the phone to
input this continuously during a track run to the health app?
Well, that's one way to do it :-D

Why? Why? Why in the world should healthy people track their heart
rates?

Well, the short answer is to maximize their training. When running or any other
cardio, keeping an eye on your heart rate is a good way to keep up a good level.

The rates are quite variable to begin with, and oftentimes
change with various activities.

They sure do. You don't have to keep track of your heart rate while having sex,
that's fine to leave all alone :-D


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Sandman

Whisky-dave wrote:
Isn't that exacty the reason. The medical profession should be intrested in peole that are fit and healthy too


They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.

P.S. Please learn how to spell.

Mort Linder

On 5/6/2015 4:41 PM, Mort wrote:
Whisky-dave wrote:
Isn't that exacty the reason. The medical profession should be
intrested in peole that are fit and healthy too


They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.


Not long ago I was discussing that very point with Senator Schumer. He
expressed a great deal of frustration over that very point.
Holy cow! I just sumatrized a conversation with a Senator in two sentences.

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PeterN

Tony Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 06 May 2015 16:41:24 -0400, Mort wrote:

Whisky-dave wrote:
Isn't that exacty the reason. The medical profession should be intrested in peole that are fit and healthy too


They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.

Not all, though. My medical insurance carrier waives the copayment
for an annual physical by my primary physician and sends me a $25 gift
card for having that physical. There is no charge for the blood work
prior the physical.



You are quite fortunate. Most policies, private and government, do not
offer such nice coverage.

Mort

In article , Mort
wrote:

Isn't that exacty the reason. The medical profession should be intrested in
peole that are fit and healthy too


They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.

you need better insurance.

annual physicals are not only covered (on numerous plans i evaluated),
but they are exempt from the deductible.

In article , Mort
wrote:

They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.

Not all, though. My medical insurance carrier waives the copayment
for an annual physical by my primary physician and sends me a $25 gift
card for having that physical. There is no charge for the blood work
prior the physical.


You are quite fortunate. Most policies, private and government, do not
offer such nice coverage.

wrong.

"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 5/6/2015 4:41 PM, Mort wrote:
Whisky-dave wrote:
Isn't that exacty the reason. The medical profession should be
intrested in peole that are fit and healthy too


They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If
a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.


Not long ago I was discussing that very point with Senator Schumer. He
expressed a great deal of frustration over that very point.
Holy cow! I just sumatrized a conversation with a Senator in two
sentences.

--
PeterN

Paying for wellness care is a good policy for an insurance carrier, IMO.
But paying for all preventative visits can lead to abuse. To keep this
photography related, I hope there wasn't a camera nearby when you were
having that conversation with Schumer. He would have knocked you over
trying to get in front of it.

On 5/7/2015 9:12 AM, PAS wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
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On 5/6/2015 4:41 PM, Mort wrote:
Whisky-dave wrote:
Isn't that exacty the reason. The medical profession should be
intrested in peole that are fit and healthy too


They are, but the government and the insurance companies are not. If a
Physician marks an insurance form with the diagnosis: "preventative
check-up",then Medicare and most insurance companies pay ZERO. They
will not pay for preventative exams and tests to, e.g. diagnose
diabetes, but they will pay for the leg amputations or the kidney
dialyses that are needed after damage from diabetes.


Not long ago I was discussing that very point with Senator Schumer. He
expressed a great deal of frustration over that very point.
Holy cow! I just sumatrized a conversation with a Senator in two
sentences.

--
PeterN

Paying for wellness care is a good policy for an insurance carrier, IMO.
But paying for all preventative visits can lead to abuse. To keep this
photography related, I hope there wasn't a camera nearby when you were
having that conversation with Schumer. He would have knocked you over
trying to get in front of it.

You just don't agree with his politics.

--
PeterN