Olympus launches micro 4/3 camera

John Navas wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:38:33 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote
in :

As this site does not offer similar consideration, I choose not to
view it. A pity, as I might actually be interested in the
information it contains.

The only one that suffers is you.
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face?"

I have walked out of restaurants in the past which were too noisy.

David

John Navas wrote:
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In other words, you could easily mute the sound, but you choose not
to. Whether it is inconsiderate or not is a matter of opinion. What
you choose to do only serves to hurt yourself.

No, I cannot mute the sound from that site alone, without affecting the
sound I may wish to have from other sites or from other functions on my
computer. Those pages are an example of poor Web-site design, and one I
will not view.

David

David J Taylor wrote:
John Navas wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:38:33 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote
in :

As this site does not offer similar consideration, I choose not to
view it. A pity, as I might actually be interested in the
information it contains.

The only one that suffers is you.
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face?"

I have walked out of restaurants in the past which were too noisy.

In any case, I can't see where not looking at a Web site advertising a
product that one has no interest in purchasing to begin with is "cutting off
your nose to spite your face".

The job of the advertiser is, first, to get people to look at their ads. If
people are tuning out this particular ad because of the sound, then the
advertiser has failed.

However there is a mute button on the lower right, where there is an icon of
vertical bars.

David J Taylor wrote:
Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , David J
Taylor says...
Alfred Molon wrote:
You can skip the intro.

Yes, that's what I noticed as well, but you /still/ get the music.
So I switched away from the site. Style over content, no thanks.

My Lenovo Thinkpad has a button to switch off the sound.

But actually I just wanted to post the news. I don't understand why
you are so concerned about the music.

Alfred,

I object strongly to anything which affects my acoustic environment. I
have my PC set up for sounds from certain events and programs, and
therefore I don't want to have to turn my sound on and off just to suit
the whims of some marketing types. You will note that most Media Player
programs offer a mute button, and many Web sites which have a sound have
a similar mute button in consideration for their users. Even this site
as a skip intro, as you note.

As this site does not offer similar consideration, I choose not to view
it. A pity, as I might actually be interested in the information it
contains. I looked at DP Review instead.

My concern about the unstoppable music is for others who might also care
about their acoustic environment.

David
I agree with you David. My computer is normally playing
music that I want to hear. When some inconsiderate **** puts
music on a website that can't be turned off it is a pain in
the backside. You either put up with the racket, or you
pause the music you want to listen to and mute the whole
sound system. Sorry, but I want my computer to make the
noises I want it to make, not the whim of some web designer.
Plus it is just more crap that gets downloaded, counting
towards monthly download quotas, and slowing down the
overall browsing experience.

--
Don't blame me - I didn't vote for Kevin Rudd or Anna Bligh!

J. Clarke wrote:
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However there is a mute button on the lower right, where there is an
icon of vertical bars.

Thanks, I missed that (as perhaps did others). Of course, putting
something at the right-hand-side may make it invisible without scrolling
the display - another example of bad Web page design.

David

David J Taylor wrote:
J. Clarke wrote:
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However there is a mute button on the lower right, where there is an
icon of vertical bars.

Thanks, I missed that (as perhaps did others). Of course, putting
something at the right-hand-side may make it invisible without
scrolling the display - another example of bad Web page design.

No problem. It's also light gray and I'm surprised that _I_ noticed it.

I quit eating M&Ms after an obnoxious pop-up ad with sound effects annoyed
me one too many times. I snail-mailed the CEO of Mars Candy and explained
why, too. That ad disappeared about a week and a half later never to be
seen again.

I think that web designers are going to have to learn the lesson that
gratuitous sound effects on Web sites are like brown suits--no matter how
well designed, they're going to alienate a certain percentage of viewers.

Bob Larter wrote:
John Navas wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:38:33 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote in
:

Alfred Molon wrote:

My Lenovo Thinkpad has a button to switch off the sound.

But actually I just wanted to post the news. I don't understand why
you are so concerned about the music.

I object strongly to anything which affects my acoustic environment.
...

And that is, of course, the real issue.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I also greatly object to websites
that play music or make noises at me. My usual response is to close the
tab with the offending page.

Me three. It's not difficult to code the page with a) a control to stop
the sound, or control its volume, and b), have its default position to
Off when the page is first opened.

--
john mcwilliams

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:57:33 -0700, John Navas wrote:

Please see my other post. There is no option on those Web pages
to remove the sound. It is inconsiderate for potential visitors.

In other words, you could easily mute the sound, but you choose
not to. Whether it is inconsiderate or not is a matter of opinion.
What you choose to do only serves to hurt yourself.

No. What David chose to do because of poor website design, and
what many others have done (including myself) and what even more
will do, only serves to hurt Olympus's poor marketing campaign and
ultimately their product sales. But Navas you are and Navas you'll
always be, so once having an opinion, you'll dig in your heels and
refuse to be budged, no matter how poorly formed your opinions.

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:59:09 -0400, ASAAR wrote:

so once having an opinion, you'll dig in your heels and
refuse to be budged, no matter how poorly formed your opinions.

ASSAR? Did you finally get that mirror that everyone's been telling you to
look into all of your life? Wow! I'm impressed!

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:02:29 -0500, A cretin wrote:

so once having an opinion, you'll dig in your heels and
refuse to be budged, no matter how poorly formed your opinions.

ASSAR? Did you finally get that mirror that everyone's been telling
you to look into all of your life? Wow! I'm impressed!

Equally impressive is your near immediate response. You have no
life. Or it may be said that whatever life you do have consists of
being only a pathetic, cowardly, nym shifting sock puppet troll. I
doubt that your parents would be proud. In fact, their opinion of
you may be partly responsible for the downward spiral of your life.