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  #51  
Old September 22nd 04, 02:56 PM
Guido Vollbeding
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Bruce Murphy wrote:

That's not necessarily true. Not all buffer overruns are exploitable,
and not all bugs are buffer overruns. Do you have any specific
information about the bug you're triggering being a naive buffer
overflow about its vulnerability?


This is definitely a buffer overrun, a bad one! Therefore the crashes.
I know that this should better be fixed (as is done in IJG 6b).
I'm no expert in exploit writing, but I've seen opinions from people
that it is only a question of time until proof-of-concept-exploits
appear.

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Old September 22nd 04, 02:56 PM
Guido Vollbeding
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Bruce Murphy wrote:

That's not necessarily true. Not all buffer overruns are exploitable,
and not all bugs are buffer overruns. Do you have any specific
information about the bug you're triggering being a naive buffer
overflow about its vulnerability?


This is definitely a buffer overrun, a bad one! Therefore the crashes.
I know that this should better be fixed (as is done in IJG 6b).
I'm no expert in exploit writing, but I've seen opinions from people
that it is only a question of time until proof-of-concept-exploits
appear.

Regards
Guido
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Old September 22nd 04, 04:52 PM
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Gisle Hannemyr wrote:
"Bart van der Wolf" writes:

"Jer" wrote:



On WinXP SP1, Nutscrape 7.2 okay, MS Internet Exploder 6.0 exploded.



Before AND after the patch?

On my system (XP Pro SP1), the patch solved the issue of shutting
down.
MS IE version 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.030422-1633.



I'm running:
WinXP Pro ver. 2002 SP 2
MS IE ver. 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2148CO; SP2
Believe that's as up-to-date as they come.

Opening the JPEG crashed MSIE (buffer overrun), but didn't affect
the OS.

No buffer overrun on Linux (with Mozilla 1.7).


The buffer overrun problem is in Microsoft's JPEG handler module, which
is shared by a lot of MS software. It in no way affects Mozilla
software, or software that runs on non-MS Operating systems, with the
possible exception of IE versions on Mac, and older versions on Unix.
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Old September 22nd 04, 05:51 PM
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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:


Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the 19th.

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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:


Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the 19th.

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Old September 22nd 04, 06:06 PM
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Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:


Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the
19th.


What does this comment add to the discussion?

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Old September 22nd 04, 06:17 PM
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"Frank ess" writes:

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:


Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the
19th.


What does this comment add to the discussion?


What does /that/ comment add to the discussion?

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Old September 22nd 04, 06:17 PM
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"Frank ess" writes:

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:


Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the
19th.


What does this comment add to the discussion?


What does /that/ comment add to the discussion?

B
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Old September 22nd 04, 06:32 PM
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Bruce Murphy wrote:
"Frank ess" writes:

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:

Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the
19th.


What does this comment add to the discussion?


What does /that/ comment add to the discussion?


I asked first.


  #60  
Old September 22nd 04, 06:32 PM
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Bruce Murphy wrote:
"Frank ess" writes:

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
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"Guido" == Guido Vollbeding writes:

Guido No, both problems are "Buffer Overrum" problems,

Too much light or dark rum, there? It's a few days late to be
perking up to Captain Morgan's... "Talk like a pirate day" was the
19th.


What does this comment add to the discussion?


What does /that/ comment add to the discussion?


I asked first.


 




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