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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for
FLYING, please feel free to refer me. My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the ground, so I want to add an LED. Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above the ground. Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56° with forward to backward vision at 71°. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about 71°. Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that particular item. Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later). Thanks. |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
On 2021-05-21 11:34, John Doe wrote:
Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for FLYING, please feel free to refer me. My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the ground, so I want to add an LED. Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above the ground. Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56° with forward to backward vision at 71°. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about 71°. Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that particular item. Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later). There are drone forums that have such discussions such as MavicPilots. -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
On May 21, 2021 at 8:34:35 AM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote: Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for FLYING, please feel free to refer me. My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the ground, so I want to add an LED. Since you are talking about the DJI Mini 2 the first thing you need to consider is the addition of almost anything will push its weight over the 249g limit for FAA registration, or other regulation limitations in other countries. The camera on the Mini 2 with its small sensor has terrible low light performance, for that you would be better off with one of the 1" sensor drones such as the Mavic 2Pro, the Air 2S, or the Autel Evo II Pro. The DJI Air 2, & Air 2S both have a bottom/downward facing LED light to aid in low light landing. Other drones have different add-on lighting systems for camera assistance, and/or area lighting. Most of those are commercial, or enterprise drones such as the DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise which has a starting price over $6,000. Then you are still faced with legal, and FAA regulations regarding nighttime flight and daylight waivers. Then you are still required to add strobe lighting such as the LumeCube, or FireHouse which must be visible up to 3 nautical miles. Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above the ground. Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56° with forward to backward vision at 71°. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about 71°. Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that particular item. The only add-on LED system I know of is the one offered by PGYTech for the Air 2/Air 2S as part of a leg extension kit, and that is a pointless waste of money. https://www.pgytech.com/products/mavic-air-2-landing-gear-extensions-led-headlamp-set Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later). With the DJI Mini 2 you are beating a dead horse. If you want, or need to pursue low light or night time drone photography up grade to a more capable drone, study and follow the FAA , or other jurisdiction rules/regulations, and get yourself FAA Part 107 certified with the appropriate daylight waivers. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
I don't violate regulations. Nobody needs a sermon on violating
regulations. I know how much my drone weighs. The claim adding an LED will make it weigh more than the registration limit is nonsense. -- Savageduck wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!tr3.eu1.usenetexpre ss.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexp ress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.gigan ews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!news.gigane ws.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 12:33:02 -0500 From: Savageduck Newsgroups: rec.photo.digital Subject: OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights) References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Usenapp/1.07.4/l for MacOS - Full License Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 12:33:02 -0500 Lines: 61 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-0Nfsk7Q7UQvQG2BlqTpCobdVMnxEKJo8SiZr+zGDRC1GR+LqRL XRpi2++XdMGfTPY6sbWS9V63bGVEn!7FsSbb2lB+KjjK3fD+ua Fw1q1GlG1Hr1s8fuNp0SVzEQ67ZMMM5ir9DrA7Ggu+zONR/ESEBdJco= X-Complaints-To: X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Lines: 42 X-Original-Bytes: 3836 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org rec.photo.digital:238625 On May 21, 2021 at 8:34:35 AM PDT, "John Doe" wrote: Seems odd but I see no YouTube videos on the subject of adding lights for FLYING, please feel free to refer me. My drone (DJI Mini 2) has a "Downward Vision System and Infrared Sensing System" that keeps the aircraft stable above the ground when not being user controlled, but it fails at nighttime because it can't see the ground, so I want to add an LED. Since you are talking about the DJI Mini 2 the first thing you need to consider is the addition of almost anything will push its weight over the 249g limit for FAA registration, or other regulation limitations in other countries. The camera on the Mini 2 with its small sensor has terrible low light performance, for that you would be better off with one of the 1" sensor drones such as the Mavic 2Pro, the Air 2S, or the Autel Evo II Pro. The DJI Air 2, & Air 2S both have a bottom/downward facing LED light to aid in low light landing. Other drones have different add-on lighting systems for camera assistance, and/or area lighting. Most of those are commercial, or enterprise drones such as the DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise which has a starting price over $6,000. Then you are still faced with legal, and FAA regulations regarding nighttime flight and daylight waivers. Then you are still required to add strobe lighting such as the LumeCube, or FireHouse which must be visible up to 3 nautical miles. Its sensing system is accurate up to 10 m and operational up to 30 m above the ground. Apparently the sensors' side to side vision is 56¶ø with forward to backward vision at 71¶ø. So I guess the maximum LED angle needed is about 71¶ø. Any specific LED suggestions? EBay might be better than Amazon for that particular item. The only add-on LED system I know of is the one offered by PGYTech for the Air 2/Air 2S as part of a leg extension kit, and that is a pointless waste of money. https://www.pgytech.com/products/mavic-air-2-landing-gear-extensions-led-headlamp-set Without knowing the part numbers and their data, maybe the sensors' Kelvin is typical sunlight. Its camera allows adjusting the Kelvin sensitivity. I guess that means the FPV view can be adjusted to match the Kelvin of an LED headlight added to it (not concerned about that now, but maybe later). With the DJI Mini 2 you are beating a dead horse. If you want, or need to pursue low light or night time drone photography up grade to a more capable drone, study and follow the FAA , or other jurisdiction rules/regulations, and get yourself FAA Part 107 certified with the appropriate daylight waivers. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
On May 21, 2021 at 8:25:33 PM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote: I don't violate regulations. That's good, but your stated intent indicates you have something otherwise in mind. Nobody needs a sermon on violating regulations. Perhaps you just needed a little reminder. I know how much my drone weighs. I should hope so. The claim adding an LED will make it weigh more than the registration limit is nonsense. Who knows what adding anything to the Mini 2 will do regarding extra weight when pushing that 249g limit. However, you will still have that small sensor with marginal lowlight performance. ....but you know what you want to do with your Mini, so go ahead and modify to your heart's content. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
Clueless twit...
-- Savageduck wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!news-out.netnews.com!newsin.alt.net!fdcspool1.netnews.c om!news-out.netnews.com!news.alt.net!fdc2.netnews.com!peer 03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01. iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giga news.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nn tp.dca1.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 23:04:37 -0500 From: Savageduck Newsgroups: rec.photo.digital Subject: OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights) References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Usenapp/1.07.4/l for MacOS - Full License Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 23:04:37 -0500 Lines: 30 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-93aLFgCkSGDUJgKOfinbOoVdQmfhJ0WZ3HjqO/opEcf75bQnZvqXJpzQzVEPuYQ0tVVMk5eDc53zpri!gLtMPSSU pFcNpD/xrFkdKHe7xSKj734xD+NT3oZInXo/M6sFPt+7zxzcE6+kiHNP+UGtMQaREQ0= X-Complaints-To: X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Lines: 24 X-Original-Bytes: 1952 X-Received-Bytes: 2217 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org rec.photo.digital:238627 On May 21, 2021 at 8:25:33 PM PDT, "John Doe" wrote: I don't violate regulations. That's good, but your stated intent indicates you have something otherwise in mind. Nobody needs a sermon on violating regulations. Perhaps you just needed a little reminder. I know how much my drone weighs. I should hope so. The claim adding an LED will make it weigh more than the registration limit is nonsense. Who knows what adding anything to the Mini 2 will do regarding extra weight when pushing that 249g limit. However, you will still have that small sensor with marginal lowlight performance. ...but you know what you want to do with your Mini, so go ahead and modify to your heart's content. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
On May 21, 2021 at 10:03:47 PM PDT, "John Doe"
wrote: Clueless twit... Self awareness is a good trait for you. ....and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
Am 22.05.2021 um 12:46 schrieb Savageduck:
...and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished. The golden rule: never ever help people unless you are explicitly asked for it. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
On May 22, 2021 at 6:37:44 AM PDT, "Alfred Molon"
wrote: Am 22.05.2021 um 12:46 schrieb Savageduck: ...and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished. The golden rule: never ever help people unless you are explicitly asked for it. With that particular individual I probably should have known better. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights)
My post had nothing to do with FAA regulations. A sermon on FAA
regulations is netcop wannabe blather. I'm very interested in the law, a regular listener to the United States Supreme Court, not at all interested in discussing the law with some clueless dweeb. Some people are assholes. When they see a question they don't know the answer to, they bash the poster for asking the question. It's an ego problem... -- Alfred Molon wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!fdcspool3.netnews.c om!news-out.netnews.com!news.alt.net!fdc3.netnews.com!peer 02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!fx02.am s1.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: OT: Drone lights for flying (not indicator lights) Newsgroups: rec.photo.digital References: From: Alfred Molon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 13:37:45 UTC Organization: blocknews - www.blocknews.net Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 15:37:44 +0200 X-Received-Bytes: 1288 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org rec.photo.digital:238631 Am 22.05.2021 um 12:46 schrieb Savageduck: ...and I relearn the lesson that no good deed shall go unpunished. The golden rule: never ever help people unless you are explicitly asked for it. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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