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John A. Stovall wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 23:30:16 GMT, "ian lincoln" wrote: snipped considering the main selling point of the canon is its 8mp sensor putting an inferior lens on the front seems pointless. Why bother buying one with a kit lens? In putting together my Canon 20D system. I just bought the body and then added the lens(es) I wanted which would meet my needs. I don't understand why any one wouldn't just buy a body and not get the best lenses for their needs rather than what the manufacturer put on it. I would go as far as to say anyone buying a 20D and not knowing enough to pick a lenses doesn't need to be buying one but rather needs to be learning more about the basics of photography. That depends a lot on the person. Some just want the latest and best gadget and really don't care about photography, and really couldn't care less about what lens they have as long as it does their job as they perceive it. The manufacturers put wide to moderate zoom lenses because these are appropriate to people who are more snapper than shooter. The days of "ye shall spend 1 year with a 50mm lens" are a bit in the past. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
In article , adm wrote: "Steven M. Scharf" wrote in message hlink.net... [ ... ] The lack of mirror lock-up is just decontenting. They do lock up the mirror for sensor cleaning, so the capability is there. True. I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be a firmware hack for this though... Well ... remember that when sensor cleaning, they recommend operating it from the AC power adaptor, which suggests that holding the mirror up drains the battery rather quickly. This seems to me to be adequate reason to not put it in the firmware -- either as an original feature, or as an aftermarket "hack". The reason for the AC is to make the chance of a power failure (battery) remote, resulting in the shutter closing and mirror falling onto the brush or blower, or swab. The shutter, in particular, is usually delicate and closes very fast. I suspect that the mirror is being held up by battery power full time while it is up, and that to provide a reasonable mirror lock-up feature, they would need to add hardware -- one solenoid to lift the mirror (and let it latch), and another to release it once it is time to do so. Most electric MLU's draw current during MLU. It's no big deal. Consider a 30 second or 5 minute exposure... a few seconds of MLU is nothing. The EOS-1v is one SLR that does have a mechanical mirror latch for both MLU and long exposures. At that time, they could also add a mirror up, delay, expose, and mirror release features for extreme telephoto or for astro-photography. Minolta's MLU solution is a 2 second delay. Depress shutter, mirror-up, wait 2 sec. begin exposure. I've been using this regualarly for 5 years and my batteries usually last 4-5 months at a rate of 100 rolls per year (Maxxum 9). This is also a feature of the Maxxum 7D. Cheers, Alan. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
... Well ... remember that when sensor cleaning, they recommend operating it from the AC power adaptor, which suggests that holding the mirror up drains the battery rather quickly. They are simply concerned that someone might attempt sensor cleaning with an almost-exhausted battery, and the camera will turn off, and the mirror will crash down on a brush. |
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"David J. Littleboy" wrote in message ... The D70 and EOS-350D are hands down the best choices in the amateur market, and most people would be happy with either of them, despite the minor shortcomings of each. Yep. Although we haven't seen the Dpreview 350D review yet: we're assuming it acts like the 20D. What about moire? I've seen moire mentioned on the D70 in every review. |
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"Steven M. Scharf" wrote in message ink.net... "David J. Littleboy" wrote in message ... The D70 and EOS-350D are hands down the best choices in the amateur market, and most people would be happy with either of them, despite the minor shortcomings of each. Yep. Although we haven't seen the Dpreview 350D review yet: we're assuming it acts like the 20D. What about moire? I've seen moire mentioned on the D70 in every review. That's true, but my 300D does Moire, and I've seen Moire in 20D samples, so it's something you're going to see whatever camera. I'd like to say that Canon kills Nikon/Pentax/Minolta, but in real life, it's not as true as we Canonophiles would like to think. Also, don't forget that Sony has a 12MP sensor that will drop into the Nikon/Pentax/Minolta low and midrange bodies... David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:09:12 GMT, Jan Böhme
, wrote in : On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 14:29:55 GMT, "ian lincoln" wrote: "Clyde Torres" wrote in message .com... "Alice" wrote in message ... http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/Nik...sRebelXT.shtml I'm not sure this review puts to bed anything. The Nikon/Canon zealots will read what they want out of it and come up with different conclusions. I for one have both a D70 and 20D. They are far superior cameras to the original Digital Rebel, and from what I can see, the D70 is still superior to the 350D DRXT. Oh,well, to each her own. Reading the first page the feature set has the slight edge for nikon in terms of shear number of advantages over the other. Yes. Although one of the Nikon advantages is duplicated in their list (the metering) and two arguably insignificant advantages for Nikon are included (the 1.5 crop factor is touted as a "larger sensor" in comparison to the crop factor of 1,6 with the 350D, and the startup time of 0,02 seconds is given as faster then the 0,2 sec of EOS 350D, when both times are faster than itnormally would take to raise the camera to one's eyes) I didn't find a correspondingly irrelevant or insignificant advantage listed on the Canon side. (Well, I suppose that one could argue that the colour choice options for the 350D body are irrelevant and insignficant as far as actual photography goes.) Furthermore, one Nikon advantage is with "optional" software, which I suppose means that you don't get unless you pay extra money not accounted for in the price comparison. And the warranty advantage would seem to be Canada-specific, too. So, instead of 23-16 in favour of Nikon, it is more of 19-15 in Canada and 18-15 outside of it. Still an edge in numbers, but not quite as impressive anymore. Two more non-advantage points: the D70 has a penta-Dach-mirror viewfinder, not a pentaprism; the D70's flash sync speed of 1/500s at ISO200 vs 350D's 1/200s at ISO100 is just 1/3 stop different, not as much an advantage that 1/500s vs 1/200s makes it out to be. That makes it 16-15 for D70. Admitedly, the D70 has slightly better ergonomics and operational performance, but the more important aspects, IMO, of higher resolution and (presumably) lower noise quality of the 350D will outweigh the D70 as the better camera. -- T.N.T. Lbh xabj jung gb qb vs lbh rire jnag gb rznvy zr. |
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Larry wrote:
In article , says... I use a small Canon A60 when I don't want to bring my DRebel (hiking, biking, skiing). It makes great 4x6 for a 2MP P&S camera. When I looked at D70, it gave a rougher impression. I don't remember exactly what it was, but there was something really cheap about it, the battery or memory card maybe. Something that didn't fit in on a camera in that price range. Perhaps its just a different way of "looking". When I judge a camera, a lot of it is done without my eyes, its done with the fingertips and hands. Did the D70 LOOK more rugged?? NO!, but when in my hands it felt more substantial, (heavier maybe? I didnt look at the weight) It FELT less breakable when using controls without looking. As for battery cover, card slots, little doors ect. Ive come to EXPECT problems in those areas on all cameras, and I dont fuss with them when Im distracted. It is at least 90% subjective on my part, I just thought the D70 felt more rugged than the DRebel (the 300 not the 350 which I have not handled). I agree that D70 has more rugged feeling that 300D. It was same thing years ago when I bought the F60. The Rebel felt just too delicate. I sold the F60 and bought EOS 300 for my wife. She likes the fact that it is smaller than the F60. So it is very subjective. |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:38:25 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
, wrote in ink.net: "adm" wrote in message ... "Steven M. Scharf" wrote in message Ummmm.....what about spot metering and fast flash sync ? The D70 is an anomaly in terms of the fast flash sync, even the D2X doesn't have the fast flash sync. It's because the D70's 1/500s flash sync at ISO200 is exactly the same as the D2X's 1/250s at ISO100. No advantage there whatsoever. It's a real advantage to the D70, but it wasn't like Canon decided to decontent it out of the EOS-350D in order to get people to go to a model that has it. It's only 1/3 stop different, not much an advantage to sway anything except bragging right. -- T.N.T. Lbh xabj jung gb qb vs lbh rire jnag gb rznvy zr. |
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