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Nikon D7000 is made in China, CHINA!!!
On 2011-03-01 17:26:19 -0800, PeterN said:
On 2/27/2011 9:13 PM, John Turco wrote: Savageduck wrote: On 2011-01-14 20:27:54 -0800, Robert said: On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:12:56 -0600, John wrote: heavily edited for brevity : The "Industrial Revolution" began in Britain (Scotland, specifically), : but, reached its zenith in the United States. That was due to the U.S. : perfection of the "interchangeable parts" concept. : : Indeed, when WWII's various crises caused the British to lower their : production standards (in order to increase output), the results were : less than desirable. Their army transport trucks frequently broke : down, clogging roads and overburdening repair depots. : : Conversely, American military vehicles were the world's most reliable. : : Late in the war, Germany evidently suffered the same fate as Britain. : Captured German materiel was often of much lower quality, than before. Well, by that time Oskar Schindler was deliberately making crappy products for the German war effort, according to the story. Perhaps other contractors were doing the same. Bob The Schindler story was just a small part of the sabotage in the German war-industry factories and most of what came out of Schindler's factories was not war critical. There were Poles, Czechs, Rumanians, French, Russians, and Dutch and even allied POW's used as forced labor in munitions, weapons and vehicle production. Many of these workers added their subtle contribution to the Allied war effort. many of these workers paid for simple actions such as going slow, or contrived industrial accidents with their lives. There were more subtle types of sabotage which lead to equipment and munitions failures. The general public is often deceived by Hollywood's fodder. Dramatized accounts of actual events are only loosely based on facts, as a rule. In the cinema, truth usually takes a back seat, to ticket sales (pun intended)...and disclaimers are normally stated (in "fine print"), up front. However, Ernst Leitz in real life went far beyond the Hollywood portrayal of Schindler. http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/art...ica/index.html That was interesting. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Nikon D7000 is made in China, CHINA!!!
On 2011-03-02 03:11:44 -0800, Bruce said:
Savageduck wrote: However, Ernst Leitz in real life went far beyond the Hollywood portrayal of Schindler. http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/art...ica/index.html That was interesting. Interesting, perhaps, but how much of it is accurate? I'm sure I'm not the only Leica owner to feel slightly uncomfortable about owning the products of a company that contributed so much to the German war machine in the Nazi years. Leitz/Leica military items are still plentiful and highly collectable. No doubt the story referred to helps to make the many Jewish Leica buyers feel more comfortable about purchasing their cameras and lenses from a company that supplied the German government and armed forces with so much optical and photographic equipment during the Nazi era. But isn't it a little strange that the story could only be written after the last Leitz family member who could verify any of it had passed? How about surviving beneficiaries and/or descendants of the beneficiaries of the rescues written about? They should be able to verify some individual related family stories Anyway there seem to be others relating the same tale. http://www.phsc.ca/gilbert.html -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2011-03-02 04:45:30 -0800, Savageduck said:
On 2011-03-02 03:11:44 -0800, Bruce said: Savageduck wrote: However, Ernst Leitz in real life went far beyond the Hollywood portrayal of Schindler. http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/art...ica/index.html That was interesting. Interesting, perhaps, but how much of it is accurate? I'm sure I'm not the only Leica owner to feel slightly uncomfortable about owning the products of a company that contributed so much to the German war machine in the Nazi years. Leitz/Leica military items are still plentiful and highly collectable. No doubt the story referred to helps to make the many Jewish Leica buyers feel more comfortable about purchasing their cameras and lenses from a company that supplied the German government and armed forces with so much optical and photographic equipment during the Nazi era. But isn't it a little strange that the story could only be written after the last Leitz family member who could verify any of it had passed? How about surviving beneficiaries and/or descendants of the beneficiaries of the rescues written about? They should be able to verify some individual related family stories Anyway there seem to be others relating the same tale. http://www.phsc.ca/gilbert.html It seems the ADL was happy enough to verify the story; http://www.adl.org/PresRele/HolNa_52/4975_52.htm -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Nikon D7000 is made in China, CHINA!!!
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:25:33 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Savageduck wrote: On 2011-03-02 04:45:30 -0800, Savageduck said: On 2011-03-02 03:11:44 -0800, Bruce said: Savageduck wrote: However, Ernst Leitz in real life went far beyond the Hollywood portrayal of Schindler. http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/art...ica/index.html That was interesting. Interesting, perhaps, but how much of it is accurate? I'm sure I'm not the only Leica owner to feel slightly uncomfortable about owning the products of a company that contributed so much to the German war machine in the Nazi years. Leitz/Leica military items are still plentiful and highly collectable. No doubt the story referred to helps to make the many Jewish Leica buyers feel more comfortable about purchasing their cameras and lenses from a company that supplied the German government and armed forces with so much optical and photographic equipment during the Nazi era. But isn't it a little strange that the story could only be written after the last Leitz family member who could verify any of it had passed? How about surviving beneficiaries and/or descendants of the beneficiaries of the rescues written about? They should be able to verify some individual related family stories Anyway there seem to be others relating the same tale. http://www.phsc.ca/gilbert.html It seems the ADL was happy enough to verify the story; http://www.adl.org/PresRele/HolNa_52/4975_52.htm That's all very convenient for the many Jewish buyers of Leica equipment who can now sleep soundly knowing that the E. Leitz company actively did something to help some Jews escape the Nazis. But none of this in any way negates the enormous contribution that the E. Leitz company made to the Nazi war effort. No doubt it will be argued that E. Leitz had no alternative, but the fact remains that few optical companies helped the Nazi military machine to quite the same extent. The sheer volume of Nazi memorabilia that was originally made by E. Leitz cannot simply be ignored. It seems to me that great efforts are being made to publicise an albeit genuinely worthy scheme to allow a small number of Jews to leave Germany against the background of E. Leitz's much more significant contribution to the Nazi war effort. Don't get me wrong - I welcome the information about the "Freedom Train". But it doesn't significantly reduce my personal concern about the E. Leitz company's war record. In fairness, I am equally concerned about the contributions made by Carl Zeiss, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen, whose products I have bought in recent years. Mercedes-Benz was a particular personal favourite of Hitler, and the Volkswagen was his personal project. Being British, and having had several members of my family killed fighting Germany means my concerns centre around Nazi Germany. I would imagine that Americans are similarly concerned about Japan, as are many British people whose family members fought in the Far East. Trolled by the master "Off-Topic Resident Troll" again, eh? |
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Nikon D7000 is made in China, CHINA!!!
All amateur Nikon cameras are made in Thailand, while high-end professional
cameras such as D700, D3s and above are made in Japan. China still manufacture some lenses for Nikon, so as Canon. Quality-wise, Nikon has great quality control for all their products that you should not doubt all cameras made from countries outside Japan. If there is indeed a D7000 made in Japan, I assure you that you will not spot even a minute difference. Nikon for Life |
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