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ICC profile for a light box
In article , dale
wrote: Lightroom is not a łviewing environment˛, your łviewing environment˛ is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room couldn't it be configured to profile, and connected to other profiles ? no. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On 7/30/2018 9:31 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale wrote: I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for a viewing environment like a light box. there is. does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ... lightroom (no space), and no. you need a hardware puck and associated software. the name Lightroom (no space) is kinda' like a room where you have specific viewing conditions like the characteristics of the light ? -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote (in iganews.com): On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote (in article ): On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote: In , wrote: I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for a viewing environment like a light box. there is. does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ... Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing environment” is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together with your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of the tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio Spectrophotometer, or any of the tools they offer. After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of these calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according to changing light in that room. Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration profiles. http://x-rite.com Try this: https://www.xrite.com https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/ might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc. -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. |
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ICC profile for a light box
In article , dale
wrote: might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc. lightroom has been fully colour managed since day one. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ): On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote (in iganews.com): On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote (in article ): On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote: In , wrote: I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for a viewing environment like a light box. there is. does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ... Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing environment” is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together with your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of the tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio Spectrophotometer, or any of the tools they offer. After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of these calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according to changing light in that room. Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration profiles. http://x-rite.com Try this: https://www.xrite.com https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/ might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc. Those tools have nothing to do with Lightroom, other than generating icc profiles which can be use with Lightroom, printers, projectors, etc. The important issue is having your display/monitor properly calibrated when used under the ambient light in whatever room you use for editing. Without that calibration any attempt at color management, regardless of icc profile you might have available, will be unsuccessful. ....and then there is your camera, and whatever light conditions, or artificial light you might find yourself shooting under. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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ICC profile for a light box
On 7/30/2018 10:07 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote (in article ): On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote (in iganews.com): On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote (in article ): On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote: In , wrote: I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for a viewing environment like a light box. there is. does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ... Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing environment” is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together with your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of the tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio Spectrophotometer, or any of the tools they offer. After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of these calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according to changing light in that room. Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration profiles. http://x-rite.com Try this: https://www.xrite.com https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/ might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc. Those tools have nothing to do with Lightroom, other than generating icc profiles which can be use with Lightroom, printers, projectors, etc. The important issue is having your display/monitor properly calibrated when used under the ambient light in whatever room you use for editing. Without that calibration any attempt at color management, regardless of icc profile you might have available, will be unsuccessful. ...and then there is your camera, and whatever light conditions, or artificial light you might find yourself shooting under. there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance, look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance I think ICC considers CIECAM02 -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On 7/30/2018 9:57 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale wrote: might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc. lightroom has been fully colour managed since day one. there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance, look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance I think ICC considers CIECAM02 -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On 7/30/2018 9:46 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale wrote: Lightroom is not a ³viewing environment², your ³viewing environment² is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room couldn't it be configured to profile, and connected to other profiles ? no. what prevents it ? -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On 7/31/2018 5:52 AM, dale wrote:
what prevents it feature request ? -- dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/ Not a professional opinion unless specified. |
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ICC profile for a light box
On Jul 31, 2018, dale wrote
(in article ): On 7/30/2018 9:57 PM, nospam wrote: In , wrote: might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc. lightroom has been fully colour managed since day one. there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance, look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance What exactly do you believe is a *light room*? Understand that any viewing environment is going to be influenced by amient light, regardless of the specific light source be it day light, or any type of artificial lighting. What is your specific, or special purpose/interest for needing this specific icc profile for a *light room* (not LR the app)? It doesn’t sound as though you have any interest in color management for photography post processing. I think ICC considers CIECAM02 You think? CIECAM02 is a color model. Perhaps looking at the entire Datacolor, and/or X-Rite Pantone sites might provide some information regarding color management outside the realm of photography. Some how I don’t believe that anything us photographers say is going to satisfy you. https://www.datacolor.com https://www.xrite.com -- Regards, Savageduck |
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