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  #11  
Old March 24th 13, 11:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Robert Coe
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:47:36 -0400, Bowser wrote:
: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:08:10 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:
:
: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
: : This has happened to me. DSLR no-no, while people snap away happily
: : with 8 meg iPhones and the like. A Sony NEX could be a life-saver
: : here. Even more so, the m4/3 gear because of the smallness of most
: : lenses.
: :
: : http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51130854
:
: Maybe we need to be more assertive. "I have a ticket, and it says nothing
: about cameras. If you want to make an issue of it, you can call the police;
: I'll call the press, and my lawyer, and the City Licensing Bureau, and my
: State Representative, etc., etc." My guess is that they'll cave more often
: than not.
:
:
: My ticket to last night's hockey game at the Garden did say it, but I
: waltzed in with a camera bag anyway. Nobody even batted an eyelash.

Would you have waltzed in as easily with your 5D and a 70-200?

Bob
  #12  
Old March 25th 13, 10:10 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Trevor[_2_]
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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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Watch the Olympic opening sequence to see how many morons think a puny on
camera flash can illuminate an olympic stadium at night time.


They have no idea how the flash works, and no idea how to turn it off
anyway. Their camera is always set to auto, and simply fires the flash in
such circumstances, because it has no idea either.
Still remember the moon landings where millions of pictures of blank TV sets
were processed in the following weeks. The flash exposing the cabinet just
fine :-)
At least the morons get to see their mistakes immediately now, knowing what
(and how) to change is entirely another matter though!
And I can't count the number of times I've helped people with expensive
DSLR's that have no idea how to change even the most basic settings! Their
comment is always the same, "must read the manual one day". They never do
:-(

Trevor.


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Old March 25th 13, 11:39 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
otter
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On Mar 24, 3:47*pm, Bowser wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:08:10 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
: This has happened to me. *DSLR no-no, while people snap away happily
: with 8 meg iPhones and the like. *A Sony NEX could be a life-saver
: here. *Even more so, the m4/3 gear because of the smallness of most
: lenses.
:
:http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51130854


Maybe we need to be more assertive. "I have a ticket, and it says nothing
about cameras. If you want to make an issue of it, you can call the police;
I'll call the press, and my lawyer, and the City Licensing Bureau, and my
State Representative, etc., etc." My guess is that they'll cave more often
than not.


My ticket to last night's hockey game at the Garden did say it, but I
waltzed in with a camera bag anyway. Nobody even batted an eyelash.


There's a wide range of consistency in the enforcement of the rules at
different venues. In my experience, sports venues tend to be a little
more lax about DSLR cameras than music venues, but it definitely
depends on the team and arena. It all depends on the training they
give to the security staff.
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Old March 25th 13, 02:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Bowser
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:54:21 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:47:36 -0400, Bowser wrote:
: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:08:10 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:
:
: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
: : This has happened to me. DSLR no-no, while people snap away happily
: : with 8 meg iPhones and the like. A Sony NEX could be a life-saver
: : here. Even more so, the m4/3 gear because of the smallness of most
: : lenses.
: :
: : http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51130854
:
: Maybe we need to be more assertive. "I have a ticket, and it says nothing
: about cameras. If you want to make an issue of it, you can call the police;
: I'll call the press, and my lawyer, and the City Licensing Bureau, and my
: State Representative, etc., etc." My guess is that they'll cave more often
: than not.
:
:
: My ticket to last night's hockey game at the Garden did say it, but I
: waltzed in with a camera bag anyway. Nobody even batted an eyelash.

Would you have waltzed in as easily with your 5D and a 70-200?

Bob


I don't know. But since I've sold off all my Canon gear that's no
longer a concern.

:-)
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Old March 25th 13, 02:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Bowser
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:39:08 -0700 (PDT), otter
wrote:

On Mar 24, 3:47*pm, Bowser wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:08:10 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
: This has happened to me. *DSLR no-no, while people snap away happily
: with 8 meg iPhones and the like. *A Sony NEX could be a life-saver
: here. *Even more so, the m4/3 gear because of the smallness of most
: lenses.
:
:http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51130854


Maybe we need to be more assertive. "I have a ticket, and it says nothing
about cameras. If you want to make an issue of it, you can call the police;
I'll call the press, and my lawyer, and the City Licensing Bureau, and my
State Representative, etc., etc." My guess is that they'll cave more often
than not.


My ticket to last night's hockey game at the Garden did say it, but I
waltzed in with a camera bag anyway. Nobody even batted an eyelash.


There's a wide range of consistency in the enforcement of the rules at
different venues. In my experience, sports venues tend to be a little
more lax about DSLR cameras than music venues, but it definitely
depends on the team and arena. It all depends on the training they
give to the security staff.


Agreed, and it's that lack of consistency that's the problem. I can't
blame them for worrying about video at concerts since bootleggers will
stop at nothing. But stills? Are they really losing money because I
might shoot a few stills?
  #19  
Old March 30th 13, 02:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Wolfgang Weisselberg
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Bowser wrote:

Agreed, and it's that lack of consistency that's the problem. I can't
blame them for worrying about video at concerts since bootleggers will
stop at nothing.


Yep, people pay lots and lots of money for shaky videos with
really bad audio. Especially when they can get much better
recordings for less, and legally too.

But stills? Are they really losing money because I
might shoot a few stills?


Of course: people will see how bad/drugged the performers look
after a few songs. That's really terrible, and doesn't match
their corporate image, so we really need the death penalty.

-Wolfgang
  #20  
Old March 30th 13, 11:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Michael[_6_]
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On 2013-03-25 09:10:35 +0000, Trevor said:

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
Watch the Olympic opening sequence to see how many morons think a puny
on camera flash can illuminate an olympic stadium at night time.


They have no idea how the flash works, and no idea how to turn it off
anyway. Their camera is always set to auto, and simply fires the flash
in such circumstances, because it has no idea either.
Still remember the moon landings where millions of pictures of blank TV
sets were processed in the following weeks. The flash exposing the
cabinet just fine :-)
At least the morons get to see their mistakes immediately now, knowing
what (and how) to change is entirely another matter though!
And I can't count the number of times I've helped people with expensive
DSLR's that have no idea how to change even the most basic settings!
Their comment is always the same, "must read the manual one day". They
never do :-(

Trevor.


I've seen a lot of them taking flash photos of fireworks. That's double
stupidity.
--
Michael

 




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