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UC wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080...lance&n=283155 From the few pages I read I think the book has a lot to offer. It speaks in a way to something that I have been giving thought to for some time now. There seems to be two broad groups of photographers, those who set out to take a pretty photo and those who wish to capture the life and times around them. The idea of spontaneous witness would seem to not only be foreign to many on the photography news groups but also viewed with a degree of disdain. Scott |
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Amazingly, the author, as I have just found out, lives in the same city
that I do. I have to get together with her. She may be the ex-wife of a former philosophy professor of mine, Richard Garner. Anyway, she points out exactly the same thing that I have been saying: photographers have been moving farther and farther away from recording and trying to be 'artists'. Since photography is not and cannot be art (n the same sense that painting and sculpture are), this has resulted in a bunch of crap being produced by deluded morons who think they are artists, all under the thumbs of the zonazis, who dominate the educational system. In the first chapter of my own book, I cover this. I am very surprised, thouh, that she covers primarily American photographers, because the humanist/reportage approach was primarily a European one, made possible largely by the widespread acceptance and adoption of the Leica by the German and F_____ intelligentia, many of whom found themselves unemployed after 1929. The comparative importance of Americans in this trend was rather small, in my opinion. A few may have made their way to the US after Hitler's seizure of power, (Eisenstadt comes to mind) but by no means did most. Leni Riefenstahl's Will to Power and Olympia actually have more in common with the still photography of the period than with the motion-picture. A collection of stills from Olympia has been published, which will make this abundantly clear. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/382...lance&n=283155 Scott W wrote: UC wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080...lance&n=283155 From the few pages I read I think the book has a lot to offer. It speaks in a way to something that I have been giving thought to for some time now. There seems to be two broad groups of photographers, those who set out to take a pretty photo and those who wish to capture the life and times around them. The idea of spontaneous witness would seem to not only be foreign to many on the photography news groups but also viewed with a degree of disdain. Scott |
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I noticed that the author, Gretchen Garner lives in Columbus Ohio, do you
know her? "UC" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080...lance&n=283155 |
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UC wrote:
Amazingly, the author, as I have just found out, lives in the same city that I do. I have to get together with her. She may be the ex-wife of a former philosophy professor of mine, Richard Garner. Anyway, she points out exactly the same thing that I have been saying: photographers have been moving farther and farther away from recording and trying to be 'artists'. Since photography is not and cannot be art (n the same sense that painting and sculpture are), this has resulted in a bunch of crap being produced by deluded morons who think they are artists, all under the thumbs of the zonazis, who dominate the educational system. Have you ever read "Naturalistic Photography For Students Of The Art" third edition, by Peter Henry Emerson? In Book I (about 190 pages), he discusses art and why photography can never be one. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 13:00:00 up 3 days, 4:26, 5 users, load average: 4.25, 4.26, 4.20 |
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Keith Tapscott wrote: I noticed that the author, Gretchen Garner lives in Columbus Ohio, do you know her? See my last post. "UC" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080...lance&n=283155 |
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She mentions that work in her book, the first chapter of which I looked
at last night at B&N. Jean-David Beyer wrote: UC wrote: Amazingly, the author, as I have just found out, lives in the same city that I do. I have to get together with her. She may be the ex-wife of a former philosophy professor of mine, Richard Garner. Anyway, she points out exactly the same thing that I have been saying: photographers have been moving farther and farther away from recording and trying to be 'artists'. Since photography is not and cannot be art (n the same sense that painting and sculpture are), this has resulted in a bunch of crap being produced by deluded morons who think they are artists, all under the thumbs of the zonazis, who dominate the educational system. Have you ever read "Naturalistic Photography For Students Of The Art" third edition, by Peter Henry Emerson? In Book I (about 190 pages), he discusses art and why photography can never be one. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 13:00:00 up 3 days, 4:26, 5 users, load average: 4.25, 4.26, 4.20 |
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UC wrote: Keith Tapscott wrote: I noticed that the author, Gretchen Garner lives in Columbus Ohio, do you know her? See my last post. "UC" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080...lance&n=283155 " There seems to be two broad groups of photographers, those who set out to take a pretty photo and those who wish to capture the life and times around them." Is it inconceivable that one could set out to capture the life and times around them in a way that communicates one's appreciation for, and recognition of the beauty of the world around them? I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. Jay |
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"The part that is a shame is that I get the feeling that there are some
photographers who are so frightened that they might take a photograph that looks like a snapshot that they miss photographing what is important around them. " I guess the question is; important to whom? It seems that you're questioning the sincerity with which some photographers image the world around them, and castigating those who sink so low as to make a pretty picture, or even aknowledge aesthetics. I would argue that there is nothing of inherent value in a purely documentary image void of aesthetic consideration. It seems to me that one extreme is no better than the other. Jay |
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