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Psychics wrong about FF and Canon
With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to
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RichA wrote:
With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. 30D doesn't really mean much. The addition of spot metering is enough to grant a new name, but otherwise is is just evolution of 20D. From the marketing point of view, they didn't do anything wrong. The critical issue was whether Nikon's D200 will be perceived as competition to 5D or 20D. Now, when it has settled as direct competition to the latter as a "better 20D" (and, as it turned out, it is not really that "better", to say the least) Canon can take some time off and play a "evolutionary upgrade for a bit less money" game. I guess we'll have to wait for the next iteration. -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich |
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With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to
migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. They've said that the 1.6x factor is here to stay. Between that, marketing, and simple economics, I can't fathom why anyone would think that it *would* go away. Even when the cost of FF sensors drops in half, 1.6x will *still* cost less than half as much to produce (closer to 1/3), allowing them a lower-cost entry-level camera - and the quality will still be very good. There's simply no reason *not* to keep it, at least on the lower end. And their introduction of an $1100, constant-aperture zoom EF-S lens shows that they're not just keeping it for the very cheapest cameras, but for somewhat more professional models as well. steve |
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RichA wrote: With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. Why would they want to? The 20D is a very capable machine. I expect that the 30D will be, as well. I see the 30D as the chief competitor to Nikon's D200, which is just fine with me; since I plan to get a D200, I would like to see all the pressure on price that it can get. :-) |
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"RichA" wrote in message oups.com... : With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to : migrate completely away : from sub-FF sensors. : There's a reason for that. Canon EOS cameras have the shortest back focus distance of all the popular SLRs. This produces it's own unique assembly line tolerance requirements as far as manufacturing a camera goes. The FF DSLRs create some challenges in design which are not easy to overcome and take people back to a place in time where critical focus did not include using electronic sharpening aids post shoot, because of the fuzz of an anti alias filter over the sensor. FF sensors may be or may not be a viable proposition for all situations. Certainly those who went back to a 5D from a 20D have no doubt discovered some quirks that do not exist in crop factor cameras. Plenty of 5D owners have discovered that the f/2.8 lens which had an acceptable depth of field wide open on their 1.6x sensors, have quite critical DOF limitations compared to 20Ds. It's like stepping back in time to use a 5D after you've been accustomed to a crop factor lens. The only problem there is the different techniques you must devise to overcome the fact that pictures are not as sharp when you put a filter over the sensor to stop a moiré effect. The same lenses on a film camera are considerably crisper in every respect and this is due entirely to Canon's use of an aggressive anti alias filter because they can't overcome the moiré effect with a Bayer sensor. Personally I prefer the sharpness from a Nikon or Olympus DSLR - as compared to that from film, that the artificial sharpness from a Canon. The 5D may well be a unique creature going the way of eye control and all those other wonderful Canon failures. |
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"RichA" wrote in message oups.com... With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. The other clue was a new, expensive EF-S 17~55 f:2.8 IS lens. |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:40:23 -0500, "Darrell Larose"
wrote: "RichA" wrote in message roups.com... With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. The other clue was a new, expensive EF-S 17~55 f:2.8 IS lens. That, and the fact producing even a cheap Rebel XT body with a FF sensor and the lenses to match (FF lenses MADE for a digital sensors as opposed to the film lenses now used) would be prohibitively expensive for the large lower end of the market they want more of. -Rich |
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RichA wrote:
With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. No **** sherlock. Canon have made it clear that they're going with 1.6x and 1x while dropping 1.3x. Where have you been? Greg -- "All my time I spent in heaven Revelries of dance and wine Waking to the sound of laughter Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons |
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Psychics wrong about FF and Canon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:43:07 -0800, "G.T."
wrote: RichA wrote: With the release of the 30D, it does not appear Canon intends to migrate completely away from sub-FF sensors. No **** sherlock. Canon have made it clear that they're going with 1.6x and 1x while dropping 1.3x. Where have you been? Greg Others had offered the opinion that Canon was going to go FF and nothing else with DSLRs. -Rich |
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