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Old August 9th 06, 12:43 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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Default Poll: DNG for archive

Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?

2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


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Old August 9th 06, 01:45 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?


Yes.


2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


Yes.

I hope I don't get screwed with this workflow in the future.

Greg


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Old August 9th 06, 06:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
C J Southern
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?

yes

2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


yes


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Old August 9th 06, 08:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Barry Pearson
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Default Poll: DNG for archive

Alan Browne wrote:
[snip]
1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?


Yes.

2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


Yes.

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Comprehensive material about DNG he
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articles/dng/

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Old August 9th 06, 11:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
John Bean
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Default Poll: DNG for archive

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?


Yes

2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


No

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Old August 9th 06, 05:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Barry Pearson
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If manufacturers started support DNG out of the camera, i'd use it
immediately.


Some do, and at least one has done so for over a year - so I guess you
mean "out of YOUR camera"?

This is as likely as a snowball in hell, though, so if i'm
already stuck in a proprietary format from a h/w perspective (e.g.
Canon = RAW, Nikon = NEF, etc) I'm not going to lengthen my workflow.


I convert to DNG from the memory card so it doesn't add any steps to my
workflow. (I have to get them into the PC somehow, and the DNG
Converter suits me). But - I get benefits from DNG that make it worth
using DNG.

I'm a canon shooter, but if Sony + Nikon + Pentax went native DNG, it
would be enough for me to archive in DNG even if Canon did not -- there
would be enough market share to ensure the longevity of the format.


Nikon will probably be the last to go! Canon perhaps last but one.
Pentax now provide their own PEF DNG converter, in the K100D package,
or as a separate download for *ist-series cameras. (It is a feature of
Photo Browser 3).

There are a few cameras and digital backs that support DNG in-camera.
(Leica DMR back for the R8/R9, Hasselblad-Imacon H2D and some backs,
Ricoh GR Digital, Samsung Pro815).

But another trend is for camera manfacturers to provide their own
specialised DNG converters, as Pentax have done. Here are a few:
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articl...#manufacturers
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articl...htm#converters

As might be guessed, these are typically for "niche" cameras and
digital backs. Bright Light scanning digital back. MegaVision - E
Series MonoChrome. Silicon Imaging - SI-1920HDVR digital cinema camera
- used for stills output. Hasselblad-Imacon for several of their
non-DNG backs. Any sensible niche camera manufacturer that wants its
products to be handled by a broad range of raw converters will provide
a DNG option in future.

There are also several DNG converters provided by "amateurs". This
indicates the interest in DNG from programmers, see later.
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articl...htm#converters

As it stands I'd rather bet on a closed Canon RAW than an open Adobe DNG.


Chuckle! There is no possibility that DNG files will be orphaned! With
an openly-documented specification, and readily-available (optional)
SDK, the world's photographer/programmers are getting in on the act.
With perhaps a miilion or more DNG files being created every day, many
by professional photographers, there is all the motivation needed to
ensure that solutions will be found if Adobe disappears tomorrow.
(Which it won't).

After all, more than 130 non-Adobe products from more than 120
companies support DNG in some way. I learn of new ones at the rate of
about 6 per month.
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articles/dng/products.htm

It is becoming easier to list products that DON'T support DNG!
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articles/dng/not_yet.htm

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Old August 9th 06, 06:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Alan Browne wrote:
Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?


No

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I've considered it, but have decided that if support for DNGs is ever
better than support for the 300D's CRW files, I can always convert
later. That is, I'm betting that if DNG outlasts CRW, the DNG
converters that are available now will continue to be available then.

Put another way: I'll convert my CRWs to DNGs if I ever think that CRW
is dying, just like I'll copy my archive DVDs to a new optical format
when I feel that DVD support is vanishing.

In addition, the photos that I actually consider keepers get converted
to JPG for printing or web gallery use anyway, so if I'm wrong, and I
somehow end up with unusable CRWs, I'll still have the JPGs of the
pictures I really care about.

- Darryl

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Old August 9th 06, 07:43 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Poll: DNG for archive

Alan Browne wrote:
Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?

No

2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


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I have been considering it but I have yet to be convinced that my Canon
raw files are in danger of becoming obsolete and unsupported.

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Old August 9th 06, 10:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Poll: DNG for archive

Alan Browne wrote:

Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?


No


2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?


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Old August 10th 06, 02:36 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Alan Browne wrote:
Simple poll question.
Yes or No replies.
Please keep comments below the '***' line.

1) Do you convert you RAW into DNG for archive (or other purpose)?
NO
2) If yes, then once converted to DNG, do you delete the RAW without an
archive of it?
No


Shoot NIKON and I want to keep those NEF files for processing in Nikon
Capture.
I don't process many images this way, but a few important images really
benefit from the Nikon workflow.
To bad it's not as fast and prductive as Adobe CRC.
I've looked briefly at Nikon NX, but it appears very slow also.



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