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fresh paper woes
I just bought a selection of b&w paper from B&H. I want to run some
comparison tests, so I got 25 sheet packs of every 8x10 fiber paper they carry. I was a bit dismayed to get two packs of very short dated paper (agfa, two weeks to go) and a pack of Luminos whose printing had practically been worn smooth and with visibly curling paper through the wrapper. Anyway, I have yet to test it, but I am sure some of it will be sub par. Most Mfgrs don't date their paper, but will they stand behind their product? Is this something I have to take up with the retailer? I once got burned with five boxes of outdated/ poorly stored Bergger paper. $250. down the drain. I still have the paper and it is utterly useless, no Dmax, but reasonable whites. Also from B&H two 50 sheet boxes of 16x20 Forte, that were just gray from day one. Any suggestions on how to avoid or remedy this? I assumed B&H would have a big turnover of stock, and about half of my order was fresh, but the rest was not. I am following up this order with one for Liquid Orthazite. Ouch grrr. |
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wrote: I just bought a selection of b&w paper from B&H. I want to run some comparison tests, so I got 25 sheet packs of every 8x10 fiber paper they carry. I was a bit dismayed to get two packs of very short dated paper (agfa, two weeks to go) and a pack of Luminos whose printing had practically been worn smooth and with visibly curling paper through the wrapper. Anyway, I have yet to test it, but I am sure some of it will be sub par. Most Mfgrs don't date their paper, but will they stand behind their product? Is this something I have to take up with the retailer? I once got burned with five boxes of outdated/ poorly stored Bergger paper. $250. down the drain. I still have the paper and it is utterly useless, no Dmax, but reasonable whites. Also from B&H two 50 sheet boxes of 16x20 Forte, that were just gray from day one. Any suggestions on how to avoid or remedy this? I assumed B&H would have a big turnover of stock, and about half of my order was fresh, but the rest was not. I am following up this order with one for Liquid Orthazite. Ouch grrr. Most manufacturers do date the paper, the emulsion number is usually some form of the date it was created. Most B&W paper to be really bad has to be over 5 years old or drastically improperly stored. I would contact the maker direct and see if they will "warrant the paper from B&H's sale date" First find out from them if the paper is dated within 5 years. B&H will take the paper back if you stress the issue. Try talking to "Sal" in the returns department if all else fails. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Tom Phillips wrote:
wrote: snip I once got burned with five boxes of outdated/ poorly stored Bergger paper. $250. down the drain. I still have the paper and it is utterly useless, no Dmax, but reasonable whites. I'm not following you here. One assumes you're talking about fogged paper. If so, it is the whites that should be grayed/most affected. snip True, that is usually the case. Although some papers lose their ability to produce Dmax with age. I can't find that reference at the moment, but will post it when I do. Simple, buy somewhere else, like Freestyle www.freestylephoto.biz 1-800-292-6137 I'll check them out. B&H is so close, it's a habit I guess. |
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Thanks Gregory, I'll check that code and the mfgr's policy. Aslo thanks
for the tip about "Sal". |
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