Setting up a new Darkroom

I'm just saying you don't need sheet rock walls. You can build the
frame and door and everything with wood, but make the 'walls' out of
light, cheap materials, even cardboard. It just has to be light-tight,
taht's all.


G- Blank wrote:
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"Ken Hart" wrote:

"UC" wrote in message
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You realize you don't need to make the darkroom anything like a real
room. You could use just plain cardboard and 2x4's. All it has to do is
to stop light. I use a corner of a basement that is sealed off.


Yeah, but...
In my teenage years, my darkroom was in the old root cellar of the house.
There ain't nothin' like a real live temperature controlled, low dust,
spacious room filled with dark and a good stereo system!

(Actually, if you are going to use ceramic tile, you need to use cement
board- similar to drywall, but a water_proof_ product available in 3'x5'
sheets. Green sheetrock is water _resistant_.)

I might this is my dwelling therefore I want a permanent room, I've seen
people make tear down darkrooms out of plastic trash bags. Since I do
a lot of of darkroom work as earns me a fair portion of my business
I want it to be permanent.

I think I am a fairly competent carpenter, this last year so far I have
ripped all the carpets out of the house, had the hardwood floors
refinished, and I personally refurbished the bathroom. I bashed out the
walls around the tub and demolished the old yucky cast iron tub. Put a
new tub in, tiled around it, ripped down existing plastic yucky tile
which went half way up all the walls and reinstalled wainscoting, a new
crapper, and a new pedestal sink,....and new floor tile& paint.


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

"UC" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm just saying you don't need sheet rock walls. You can build the
frame and door and everything with wood, but make the 'walls' out of
light, cheap materials, even cardboard. It just has to be light-tight,
taht's all.


G- Blank wrote:
In article ,
"Ken Hart" wrote:

"UC" wrote in message
oups.com...


You realize you don't need to make the darkroom anything like a real
room. You could use just plain cardboard and 2x4's. All it has to do
is
to stop light. I use a corner of a basement that is sealed off.


Yeah, but...
In my teenage years, my darkroom was in the old root cellar of the
house.
There ain't nothin' like a real live temperature controlled, low dust,
spacious room filled with dark and a good stereo system!

(Actually, if you are going to use ceramic tile, you need to use cement
board- similar to drywall, but a water_proof_ product available in
3'x5'
sheets. Green sheetrock is water _resistant_.)

I might this is my dwelling therefore I want a permanent room, I've seen
people make tear down darkrooms out of plastic trash bags. Since I do
a lot of of darkroom work as earns me a fair portion of my business
I want it to be permanent.

I think I am a fairly competent carpenter, this last year so far I have
ripped all the carpets out of the house, had the hardwood floors
refinished, and I personally refurbished the bathroom. I bashed out the
walls around the tub and demolished the old yucky cast iron tub. Put a
new tub in, tiled around it, ripped down existing plastic yucky tile
which went half way up all the walls and reinstalled wainscoting, a new
crapper, and a new pedestal sink,....and new floor tile& paint.


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com


Try lightish ply. Then you can nail, glue, somehow afix shelving or other
wall fixtures. It's also easy to put in holes for swithes etc.

--
Otzi

In article ,
"otzi" wrote:

Try lightish ply. Then you can nail, glue, somehow afix shelving or other
wall fixtures. It's also easy to put in holes for swithes etc.

Too late; sheetrock installed yesterday Cousin the electrician
wired all the outlets, brother the "plumber" will rig the sinks and
water outlets in a week or so.

How does a fourteen by fourteen foot room sound?


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:41:28 -0500, G- Blank
wrote:

In article ,
"otzi" wrote:

Try lightish ply. Then you can nail, glue, somehow afix shelving or other
wall fixtures. It's also easy to put in holes for swithes etc.

Too late; sheetrock installed yesterday Cousin the electrician
wired all the outlets, brother the "plumber" will rig the sinks and
water outlets in a week or so.

How does a fourteen by fourteen foot room sound?

Adequate. Depends on how much room that 10X10 takes up. My D138 takes
up about 16 sq.ft. being 4'x4'. Add in tables, bookshelves, stereo,
sink(s), cabinets and so forth and my 15X15 is just adequate. Remember
that I don't print larger than 11X14 anymore.

==
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www.puresilver.org - www.xs750.net

Try and make it spider proof!

"G- Blank" wrote in message
...
Framing one of four walls tomorrow the others just need sheet
rock for them.

The short list of stuff to be inside;

4x5 Mxt Color Enlarger
10x10 Diffused Halogen B&W Enlarger
11 " Table top Color print processor
Jobo Atl 3
Jobo CPP2
Arkay RC1100 paper dryer
2 sinks

If anyone might be interested in seeing the floor plan I can put
it on my website as PDF.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 01:03:51 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Try and make it spider proof!

Only in the arctic !

==
John - Photographer & Webmaster
www.puresilver.org - www.xs750.net

John wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 01:03:51 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Try and make it spider proof!

Only in the arctic !

Nope. Arachnids can not only exist but
thrive in arctic environments. Amazingly
I've seen them crawling around at 14,000
ft plus. Scorpions can even survive burial
in Greenland ice. I find them in my rather
well sealed darkroom all the time (dead,
since there's no other arthropods to live
on that I've ever seen there.)

G- Blank wrote:

In article ,
"Mike King" wrote:

If you haven't yet bought your drywall look for the more water resistant
type, mine is green in color, used a lot for a ceramic tile backer it
resists water better than standard "Sheetrock", it's not much more per sheet
and if your frugal (like I am) lay the sheets horizontally and use the
"greenboard" only in the lower course.

Hey Mike thats a very good suggestion, by default I used some greenboard
against the walls that are exterior to the house's block walls-last
summer had some water leakage there and thought green board was called
for in those locations.

Well, a vapor barrier and/or waterproofing
would seems just as efficacious if not more
so. Course I live in a very dry climate and
hanging plastic sheeting prior to framing
was enough...But I agree with the others about
the stereo, 'cept I prefer the 3 B's (Beethoven
Beatles, Bob Dylan...)

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:
s.

Well, a vapor barrier and/or waterproofing
would seems just as efficacious if not more
so. Course I live in a very dry climate and
hanging plastic sheeting prior to framing
was enough...But I agree with the others about
the stereo, 'cept I prefer the 3 B's (Beethoven
Beatles, Bob Dylan...)

Those are pretty good musicians, I have pretty eclectic taste.
Sometimes I find music to be a distraction if its not in the
background,.......but I like:

Everything from Aerosmith & White Zombie to Andreas Vollenweider
& Enya. & Lots of others.


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

G- Blank wrote:

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:
s.

Well, a vapor barrier and/or waterproofing
would seems just as efficacious if not more
so. Course I live in a very dry climate and
hanging plastic sheeting prior to framing
was enough...But I agree with the others about
the stereo, 'cept I prefer the 3 B's (Beethoven
Beatles, Bob Dylan...)

Those are pretty good musicians, I have pretty eclectic taste.
Sometimes I find music to be a distraction if its not in the
background,.......but I like:

I'd say pure genius, though Dylan in particular
was/is rather eclectic. Mozart was actually less
a piano prodigy than his contemporary/competitor
Beethoven (little known fact...) and B was a far
better composer. But I like non-genius musicians
as well

As for background, I tend to make sure what's playing
will _last_ through the current processing, whether
film or print, so it doesn't go silent during fixing...

Everything from Aerosmith & White Zombie to Andreas Vollenweider
& Enya. & Lots of others.

Too many to name and would go way OT. But I might
mention Dvorak and Van Morrison