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  #21  
Old March 12th 18, 08:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-03-12 18:02:09 +0000, nospam said:

In article , android
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Consider a slide duplicator and propper mount adapter if nessesary.

that's what i said.

No you recommended a expensive Nikkor addon...

$140 at b&h. hardly expensive. a steal at twice the price.

The
OP has an EOS IIRC:

it doesn't matter what he has. slide duplicators attach to the lens.
either the filter threads or clips on.

Nah. You can one a fixed specialised lens integrated... Like the ones
in the link below have. Way cheaper if you are on a budget like the OP
seem to be. The goto solution for quality scanning is a dedicated
filmscanner,

a film scanner is certainly ideal, except that it's quite a bit more
expensive than a duplicator.


Not with a Nikkor macro lense in the kit...


no need.


That duplicator is a macro lense accessory. Won't work well without a
good one of those...
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  #22  
Old March 12th 18, 10:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 03/12/2018 09:42 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2018-03-12 11:58, Paul Carmichael wrote:
On 12/03/18 11:36, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 17:38:48 UTC, androidÂ* wrote:


Some folks know folks that might have an Epson perfection 5-800 around
and the OP did not seem to have that much to scan.

That's what I was impling in that if you only have a few then it's
usually best to get someone else to do it for you rather than buy the
equipment and spend the time doing it oneself.


What sort of res does said scanner need to produce? I have a 1200
flatbed. Thing is, even if it were up to the job, I wouldn't have a clue
where to start.


I have a Reflecta x7-Scan

From http://www.photographyblog.com/news/reflecta_x7/

The Reflecta x7-Scan is a standalone device that enables users to
quickly digitise their 35mm slides as well as 110 and 125 format films.
Rather than scanning the film frames, the Reflecta x7 uses a
14-megapixel area-array sensor for the digitisation, which promises to
deliver similar results to a conventional 3200ppi film scanner. This
solution allows the Reflecta x7 to produce a digital image in just 2
seconds. The new addition to the Reflecta range features a 2.4" LCD
screen, comes with an integrated SD-SDHC card slot, and boasts a battery
operating time of 2.5 hours. The device comes supplied with film holders
for three mounted slides, film strips up to six exposures, 110mm film
strips up to eight exposures and 126mm (instamatic) film for up to seven
exposures.


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As it says, it is not high quality, but it is very good for scanning old
negatives for the collection fast, and then decide which one to have
scanned by a professional.

I have a similar device, Ion Film2SD Plus. It is fairly fast, especially
with full rolls of 35mm film. (I have the optional roll film adapter.)
The biggest complaint with it is that is collects dust like a magnet. It
comes with a brush designed to clean the area where the negative goes.

However, I get much better results with my Epson Perfection 4490 flatbed
scanner. The biggest problem with the scanner for me is that it wants
the film cut into strips. It has a holder for strips of six frames; I
prefer storage in strips of four. The holder has a flimsy plastic
snap-in holder to secure the negatives, two strips of six side by side.
I cut two pieces of glass to fit in that position to hold the negatives
in place.

Both machines cost about the same, in the $100 range, but the Epson
scanner does a better job.

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  #23  
Old March 12th 18, 11:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Carlos E.R.
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On 2018-03-12 15:55, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

What sort of res does said scanner need to produce? I have a 1200
flatbed. Thing is, even if it were up to the job, I wouldn't have a clue
where to start.


I have a Reflecta x7-Scan

From http://www.photographyblog.com/news/reflecta_x7/


junk.


Your opinion noted and ignored.

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  #24  
Old March 12th 18, 11:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Carlos E.R.
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On 2018-03-12 16:43, android wrote:
On 2018-03-12 14:55:57 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

What sort of res does said scanner need to produce? I have a 1200
flatbed. Thing is, even if it were up to the job, I wouldn't have a
clue
where to start.

I have a Reflecta x7-Scan

From http://www.photographyblog.com/news/reflecta_x7/


junk.


Sure! This one has more features...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-1MP-Digital-Hogar-Film-DESLIZABLE-NEGATIVO-FOTO-Lector-Con-2-4-Pantalla-LCD/311999491542?hash=item48a49e6dd6:g:yywAAOSwjDZYY8m 6


And eight times more expensive :-)

That machine was not available at the time I bought my X7, or I would
have considered it. There are new offers with time. But at that price it
is possible I would have passed.

Do you happen to know brand and name of it? I fail to locate that info
in the link, and I can't read the details in the photo.




much better results can be had using a modern digital camera and a copy
attachment, such as this:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/658820...an-scan-film-u
sing-the-new-es-2-digitizing-adapter

since it attaches to the lens, it will work with more than just nikon.


Kinda expensive since you need a macro lense to begin with...


Indeed.

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  #25  
Old March 12th 18, 11:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Carlos E.R.
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On 2018-03-12 20:08, android wrote:
On 2018-03-12 18:02:08 +0000, nospam said:

In article , android
wrote:


Hey! It's a simple, probably plastic neg holder with some opaque
difuser for light. Not even some LED lightsource!

crawl out from your cave and you might see that there's this big
giant
light source in the sky.

The sun is not a good light source for duping...

actually, it's a very good source. alternately, use a flash.

No, the color will be off...


no it won't.


Sure it will. Sunlight is always off...


Sunlight changes.

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  #26  
Old March 13th 18, 03:10 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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Sunlight changes.


copy during the day.
  #27  
Old March 13th 18, 06:30 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-03-12 22:13:59 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:

On 2018-03-12 16:43, android wrote:
On 2018-03-12 14:55:57 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

What sort of res does said scanner need to produce? I have a 1200
flatbed. Thing is, even if it were up to the job, I wouldn't have a
clue
where to start.

I have a Reflecta x7-Scan

From http://www.photographyblog.com/news/reflecta_x7/

junk.


Sure! This one has more features...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-1MP-Digital-Hogar-Film-DESLIZABLE-NEGATIVO-FOTO-Lector-Con-2-4-Pantalla-LCD/311999491542?hash=item48a49e6dd6:g:yywAAOSwjDZYY8m 6


And eight times more expensive :-)

That machine was not available at the time I bought my X7, or I would
have considered it. There are new offers with time. But at that price it
is possible I would have passed.

Do you happen to know brand and name of it? I fail to locate that info
in the link, and I can't read the details in the photo.


At 5.1MP and the price the reseller puts on it would put in the fraud
category, IMO! It's a KlarStein though!


much better results can be had using a modern digital camera and a copy
attachment, such as this:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/658820...an-scan-film-u
sing-the-new-es-2-digitizing-adapter

since it attaches to the lens, it will work with more than just nikon.


Kinda expensive since you need a macro lense to begin with...


Indeed.


Yes. I have a Plustek dedicated film scanner that I think is kinda of
good value if you get Vuescan Pro as third party scanner ware. This one:

https://www.scandinavianphoto.se/produkt/13522117/plustek/skanner-opticfilm-8200i-se


If you want to scan prints too then Epson seem to have most happy
users. The Perfection V600 Photo appears to be, per specs the best
value if you have to compromise on price.
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  #28  
Old March 13th 18, 06:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-03-13 02:10:01 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


Sunlight changes.


copy during the day.


At what time? We are about to enter DST and ...
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  #29  
Old March 13th 18, 07:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Carlos E.R.
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On 2018-03-13 06:30, android wrote:
On 2018-03-12 22:13:59 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:

On 2018-03-12 16:43, android wrote:
On 2018-03-12 14:55:57 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

What sort of res does said scanner need to produce? I have a 1200
flatbed. Thing is, even if it were up to the job, I wouldn't have a
clue where to start.

I have a Reflecta x7-Scan

From http://www.photographyblog.com/news/reflecta_x7/

junk.

Sure! This one has more features...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-1MP-Digital-Hogar-Film-DESLIZABLE-NEGATIVO-FOTO-Lector-Con-2-4-Pantalla-LCD/311999491542?hash=item48a49e6dd6:g:yywAAOSwjDZYY8m 6


And eight times more expensive :-)

That machine was not available at the time I bought my X7, or I would
have considered it. There are new offers with time. But at that price it
is possible I would have passed.

Do you happen to know brand and name of it? I fail to locate that info
in the link, and I can't read the details in the photo.


At 5.1MP and the price the reseller puts on it would put in the fraud
category, IMO! It's a KlarStein though!


Wait, 5.1 MP and 665.58€? The x7 is 14 MP and 118€. I read it wrong, it
is worse than mine, and way more expensive. It should be about 60€, so
you are right, it is a fraud.

Amazon has it here, no price given (unavailable). I don't read German to
see the item description.

https://www.amazon.de/Klarstein-Dia-Scanner-Foto-Scanner-digitalisieren-Mini-USB-2-0/dp/B00J2CV9IE



much better results can be had using a modern digital camera and a copy
attachment, such as this:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/658820...an-scan-film-u

sing-the-new-es-2-digitizing-adapter

since it attaches to the lens, it will work with more than just nikon.

Kinda expensive since you need a macro lense to begin with...


Indeed.


Yes. I have a Plustek dedicated film scanner that I think is kinda of
good value if you get Vuescan Pro as third party scanner ware. This one:

https://www.scandinavianphoto.se/produkt/13522117/plustek/skanner-opticfilm-8200i-se

If you want to scan prints too then Epson seem to have most happy users.
The Perfection V600 Photo appears to be, per specs the best value if you
have to compromise on price.


Right, there are very good negative scanners around. Mine is just a
quick inexpensive method that works fine for my needs.

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Cheers, Carlos.
  #30  
Old March 13th 18, 07:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-03-13 03:10, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


Sunlight changes.


copy during the day.


What time of the day at what latitude? Cloudy or sunny? City or wheat farm?

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