Nikon is backwards

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:47:37 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:52:38 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:46:24 -0000, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:16:09 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 28/01/2019 00:20, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 23:03:04 -0000, RichA wrote:

On Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:32:41 UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.nickcarverphotography.co...-is-backwards/

Now I know it's not just me that's annoyed by this. In fact more
than annoyed, I once BROKE a Nikon camera I'd rented, costing me
£200, simply by trying to attach the lens in the correct clockwise
manner. The rental company was not amused.

The bayonet is fine if you never go from one system to another and
back, but it grates if you do.

Not for me. Everything in life tightens to the right. Taps, screws,
etc, etc. Having to do one thing the other way simply will never work
for me. It's one of those things I expect to be intuitive. If I want
to tighten something, it goes clockwise. If that snaps a fragile
component inside the camera, I'll never buy their product again.
There's simply no need to be different to the rest of the entire world.

cough Sounds to me as if you've never connected a gas hose to a
propane bottle! ;-)

Or changed a lawn mower blade.

No need for either of those to be backwards either. The designers were clearly dimwits.

Gas bottle threads are left handed to prevent dimwits from using
inappropriate connections. Especially strong dimwits.

That's illogical. What are these "inappropriate connections" and why can't they be left handed too? Anyway, all the dimwits will do is start using adhesive tape.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:49:45 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:01:55 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:38:15 -0000, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:52:38 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:46:24 -0000, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:16:09 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 28/01/2019 00:20, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 23:03:04 -0000, RichA wrote:

On Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:32:41 UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.nickcarverphotography.co...-is-backwards/

Now I know it's not just me that's annoyed by this. In fact more
than annoyed, I once BROKE a Nikon camera I'd rented, costing me
£200, simply by trying to attach the lens in the correct clockwise
manner. The rental company was not amused.

The bayonet is fine if you never go from one system to another and
back, but it grates if you do.

Not for me. Everything in life tightens to the right. Taps, screws,
etc, etc. Having to do one thing the other way simply will never work
for me. It's one of those things I expect to be intuitive. If I want
to tighten something, it goes clockwise. If that snaps a fragile
component inside the camera, I'll never buy their product again.
There's simply no need to be different to the rest of the entire world.

cough Sounds to me as if you've never connected a gas hose to a
propane bottle! ;-)

Or changed a lawn mower blade.

No need for either of those to be backwards either. The designers were clearly dimwits.

Evidently, you don't understand the mechanics of a spinning lawnmower
blade. If the nut tightened in the normal way, the blade would work
loose in use.

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

The way the motor spins has no effect on the user. The way the user turns the nut does.

Ever seen a car where you turn the wheel left to go right? No? There's a reason for that.

The propane connection as safety feature ensuring that only a proper
fitting can be connected to a tank. It stops idiots like you from
blowing themselves up.

It ensures neither of those.

With sufficient determination, it can be done.

Which? Stopping or blowing up?

On 28/01/2019 22.54, nospam wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Evidently, you don't understand the mechanics of a spinning lawnmower
blade. If the nut tightened in the normal way, the blade would work
loose in use.

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

you're confusing standard with convention.

a motor can spin in either direction, often under user control.

Try that on a gasoline mower :-p

Or on a drill.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

Evidently, you don't understand the mechanics of a spinning lawnmower
blade. If the nut tightened in the normal way, the blade would work
loose in use.

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

you're confusing standard with convention.

a motor can spin in either direction, often under user control.

Try that on a gasoline mower :-p

as i said, convention.

Or on a drill.

most drills have a reversing switch.

On 2019-01-28 16:49, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:01:55 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

US, UK/Italy/Germany/Japan manufactured helicopters generally have
rotors turn CW (viewed from below).

So do French and Russian ... when viewed from above. ;-)

--
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we
need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
- unknown protester

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 23:06:55 -0000, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2019-01-28 16:49, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:01:55 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

US, UK/Italy/Germany/Japan manufactured helicopters generally have
rotors turn CW (viewed from below).

So do French and Russian ... when viewed from above. ;-)

The French always have to be different. Take my Renault for example, it refuses to give the error codes to any OBD device except a Renault one. OBD is supposed to be a standard. I've had to buy a pirate Renault Clip interface (£85 - the real one is £4000, hence most garages don't have one) to get the data so I can fix it. I will absolutely not pay a Renault main dealer just to find a fault.

On 28/01/2019 21:37, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:07:48 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 28/01/2019 01:27, Savageduck wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 01:06:44 -0000, wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 00:19:11 -0000, wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:52:38 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 27/01/2019 22:32, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.nickcarverphotography.co...-is-backwards/

Now I know it's not just me that's annoyed by this. In fact more than
annoyed, I once BROKE a Nikon camera I'd rented, costing me £200, simply
by trying to attach the lens in the correct clockwise manner. The
rental company was not amused.

Agree with you about the bayonet, but FWIW the Fuji zoom goes the same
way as the Nikon. Clockwise is the positive direction, going out.

Never had a Fuji DSLR, but I won't be buying Fuji since two compact
cameras I bought have nowhere near the MP they claim.

Which compact cameras,

The Finepix S1000FD and the similar one made before that which claimed 6MP.

and you know this how?

By looking at the pictures they produced obviously.

Looking at the pictures they produced will not tell you anything about the
sensor, or its specs.

WTF is the point in them telling me what the sensor can do if the output
image isn't as good as that? I don't care if it's the sensor or the lens
or something else that limits it. I expect an image worthy of the MP it claims.

A more thorough examination of the image files is going to be needed.

Yip, did that. I get about 25% of the MP Fuji quote. Canon gives 100%. Sony gives 80%.

Besides, you are talking about a long defunct camera.

I don't care, they made two cameras that lied about their output. Every
time I've had a Canon, it produced what it said on the tin.


You should check on the capability of the current generation of Fujifilm
mirrorless cameras.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwwov7yanz74rem/DSF6645R1E3.jpg

I love the image of YOU in his helmet!

Be afraid, Duck, be very afraid...

He has nothing to fear from me, I assure you - and him! ;-)

--
David B.

On 28/01/2019 23.46, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

Evidently, you don't understand the mechanics of a spinning lawnmower
blade. If the nut tightened in the normal way, the blade would work
loose in use.

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

you're confusing standard with convention.

a motor can spin in either direction, often under user control.

Try that on a gasoline mower :-p

as i said, convention.

Sure. Did you try to reverse rotation in gasoline motor? Did you succeed?


Or on a drill.

most drills have a reversing switch.


Try to drill in reverse.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 2019-01-28 18:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 23:06:55 -0000, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-28 16:49, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:01:55 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"

And for some reason motors must spin a certain way?

It's standard. If a motor rotated the other way no doubt you would
complain about it.

US, UK/Italy/Germany/Japan manufactured helicopters generally have
rotors turn CW (viewed from below).

So do French and Russian ... when viewed from above.* ;-)

The French always have to be different.* Take my Renault for example, it
refuses to give the error codes to any OBD device except a Renault one.
OBD is supposed to be a standard.* I've had to buy a pirate Renault Clip
interface (£85 - the real one is £4000, hence most garages don't have
one) to get the data so I can fix it.* I will absolutely not pay a
Renault main dealer just to find a fault.

Renault's sold in North America would be obligated by law to spit out
their OBD's w/o need for a hacked interface.
Legal requirement for cars made and sold 1996+.

OTOH, most sane people avoid Renault like the plague. They are not
qualified for Quebec winters by any measure.

The linked article suggests that they will take another kick at the can
in promoting their trash in North America:
http://loutardeliberee.com/voitures-...er-de-nouveau/

Garages here no longer charge to read OBD because there are many devices
available on the market. Last time I was at Honda for an airbag recall
(10 years ago), the "tech" told me there were additional codes but he
wouldn't tell me w/o paying a fee. And then I found the other codes
printed on my $0 invoice. I guess someone screwed up. I don't know how
they treat customers these days in that respect.

I recently bought a "BlueDriver" Bluetooth widget that I leave plugged
in all of the time. I get the codes (de-coded) on my iPhone along with
suggested fixes. (classed most likely to least...). Nice widget.

--
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we
need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
- unknown protester

On 2019-01-27 17:32, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.nickcarverphotography.co...-is-backwards/

Now I know it's not just me that's annoyed by this.* In fact more than
annoyed, I once BROKE a Nikon camera I'd rented, costing me £200, simply
by trying to attach the lens in the correct clockwise manner.* The
rental company was not amused.

When I used to rent cameras on occasion I would have them show me the
ins and outs of the camera.

That way you know what is correct for that camera (or other tool).

--
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we
need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
- unknown protester